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Posted by mm on August 16, 2006, 1:10 pm
I got some tools left behind after a woman died, that her husband had
left behind 10 years ago when he died. Both were in their 80's. He
made furniture, at least as a hobby. There was some nice furniture
there that they were selling, that he made, that he and his wife had
used for, I think, decades.
Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
Now that I have the "tapgun" running, it only turns counter-clockwise
and it seems like a normal, low speed 1/4 inch drill, but it has a 1
inch push-back spring on the shaft just behind the chuck and
sometimes, like if I grab hold of the chuck, it seems to be moving
forwards and backwards, "tapping" the work.
I've wanted a hammer drill since I saw they made them (because they
make them), but I've never actually seen one run in hammer mode. Is
this a pre-cursor, since it only seems to tap and not hammer, or is it
just that this is B&D's name, and hammer drill is generic. Web
searches find nothing for me.
Why does it only turn counter-clockwise? And what is this especially
good for! I like it because it's old, but it really should do
something. :)
(Both have matching steel cases and 3-prong plugs, and this one was
broken. The trigger wouldn't pull in, but last night I fixed that
(only needed lubrication, but I think I had to take it apart to reach
the right spot))
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Posted by RayV on August 16, 2006, 2:06 pm
Edwin wil know...
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Posted by Mike Paulsen on August 16, 2006, 4:50 pm
mm wrote:
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> Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
> drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
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It's a special drill for tapping (cutting threads). B&D used to market a
set of three drills for metal workers: holgun (drilling), tapgun
(tapping), and scrugun (driving the fastener). Looks like you got two of
the three.
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Posted by mm on August 17, 2006, 10:39 pm
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:50:05 -0700, Mike Paulsen
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>mm wrote:
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>> Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
>> drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
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>It's a special drill for tapping (cutting threads). B&D used to market a
>set of three drills for metal workers: holgun (drilling), tapgun
>(tapping), and scrugun (driving the fastener). Looks like you got two of
>the three.
Yes indeed! The other one is labelled...well the plate is scuffed but
it starts with an H so I guess it is a holgun, good for making holes,
I gather.
I indirectly learned of a guy who was short of money, but needed tools
to pursue a (just-starting, I guess) career in word working. I gave
him a modern double insultate but one speed sabre saw, and a beautiful
but old all steel case Skil saw, by Skil, complete with a wooden carry
case (although I think that was from an even older tool.) and I was
going to give him this quarter inch drill, the holgun.
When I realized it matched the other, I took it home instead of
bringing it to his apartment, and now that they match, I hate to break
the set. If he ends up making some sorts of furniture, he'd be able
to use the tapgun more than I am likely to, so I could give him both
of them.... but I like having all these tools. Once I have a tool, I
always need it...it's amazing but true. Should I give him the holgun,
the tapgun, or both?
I'd almost rather buy him a new quarter inch drill than give him the
old one. And I figure I'll be dead in 40 more years, and I can give
my tools to someone worthy then. (I"m 59.)
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Posted by Pete C. on August 17, 2006, 11:10 pm
mm wrote:
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> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:50:05 -0700, Mike Paulsen
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> >mm wrote:
> >(snip)
> >> Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
> >> drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
> >It's a special drill for tapping (cutting threads). B&D used to market a
> >set of three drills for metal workers: holgun (drilling), tapgun
> >(tapping), and scrugun (driving the fastener). Looks like you got two of
> >the three.
>
> Yes indeed! The other one is labelled...well the plate is scuffed but
> it starts with an H so I guess it is a holgun, good for making holes,
> I gather.
>
> I indirectly learned of a guy who was short of money, but needed tools
> to pursue a (just-starting, I guess) career in word working. I gave
> him a modern double insultate but one speed sabre saw, and a beautiful
> but old all steel case Skil saw, by Skil, complete with a wooden carry
> case (although I think that was from an even older tool.) and I was
> going to give him this quarter inch drill, the holgun.
>
> When I realized it matched the other, I took it home instead of
> bringing it to his apartment, and now that they match, I hate to break
> the set. If he ends up making some sorts of furniture, he'd be able
> to use the tapgun more than I am likely to, so I could give him both
> of them.... but I like having all these tools. Once I have a tool, I
> always need it...it's amazing but true. Should I give him the holgun,
> the tapgun, or both?
>
> I'd almost rather buy him a new quarter inch drill than give him the
> old one. And I figure I'll be dead in 40 more years, and I can give
> my tools to someone worthy then. (I"m 59.)
The tapgun has almost no application in woodworking, it is a 99.9%
metalworking tool. It would be most applicable to tasks such as taping
holes in sheet metal electrical cabinets for mounting components,
basically any application with through hole tapping in light to medium
gauge metal.
Pete C.
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> Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
> drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
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