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Posted by RicodJour on August 16, 2006, 5:27 pm
mm wrote:
> I got some tools left behind after a woman died, that her husband had
> left behind 10 years ago when he died. Both were in their 80's. He
> made furniture, at least as a hobby. There was some nice furniture
> there that they were selling, that he made, that he and his wife had
> used for, I think, decades.
>
> Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
> drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
>
> Now that I have the "tapgun" running, it only turns counter-clockwise
> and it seems like a normal, low speed 1/4 inch drill, but it has a 1
> inch push-back spring on the shaft just behind the chuck and
> sometimes, like if I grab hold of the chuck, it seems to be moving
> forwards and backwards, "tapping" the work.
>
> I've wanted a hammer drill since I saw they made them (because they
> make them), but I've never actually seen one run in hammer mode. Is
> this a pre-cursor, since it only seems to tap and not hammer, or is it
> just that this is B&D's name, and hammer drill is generic. Web
> searches find nothing for me.
>
> Why does it only turn counter-clockwise? And what is this especially
> good for! I like it because it's old, but it really should do
> something. :)
>
>
> (Both have matching steel cases and 3-prong plugs, and this one was
> broken. The trigger wouldn't pull in, but last night I fixed that
> (only needed lubrication, but I think I had to take it apart to reach
> the right spot))
I picked up Porter Cable's version at an auction some years back. It's
not useful on every project, but it's very useful when you need to tap
a lot of holes quickly. Did you ever tap wood? It works great,
especially in the nice dense tight-grained woods. That spring loaded
nose is the automatic part. It rotates in (clockwise) when you push
down and it reverses when you pull up on the tool. First time I tried
it I was _sure_ that I'd be snapping taps all over the place, but nope,
easy to use to boot.
Have fun with it
R
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Posted by Al Bundy on August 16, 2006, 8:52 pm
>
> mm wrote:
>> I got some tools left behind after a woman died, that her husband had
>> left behind 10 years ago when he died. Both were in their 80's. He
>> made furniture, at least as a hobby. There was some nice furniture
>> there that they were selling, that he made, that he and his wife had
>> used for, I think, decades.
>>
>> Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
>> drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
>>
>> Now that I have the "tapgun" running, it only turns counter-clockwise
>> and it seems like a normal, low speed 1/4 inch drill, but it has a 1
>> inch push-back spring on the shaft just behind the chuck and
>> sometimes, like if I grab hold of the chuck, it seems to be moving
>> forwards and backwards, "tapping" the work.
>>
>> I've wanted a hammer drill since I saw they made them (because they
>> make them), but I've never actually seen one run in hammer mode. Is
>> this a pre-cursor, since it only seems to tap and not hammer, or is it
>> just that this is B&D's name, and hammer drill is generic. Web
>> searches find nothing for me.
>>
>> Why does it only turn counter-clockwise? And what is this especially
>> good for! I like it because it's old, but it really should do
>> something. :)
>>
>>
>> (Both have matching steel cases and 3-prong plugs, and this one was
>> broken. The trigger wouldn't pull in, but last night I fixed that
>> (only needed lubrication, but I think I had to take it apart to reach
>> the right spot))
>
> I picked up Porter Cable's version at an auction some years back. It's
> not useful on every project, but it's very useful when you need to tap
> a lot of holes quickly. Did you ever tap wood? It works great,
> especially in the nice dense tight-grained woods. That spring loaded
> nose is the automatic part. It rotates in (clockwise) when you push
> down and it reverses when you pull up on the tool. First time I tried
> it I was _sure_ that I'd be snapping taps all over the place, but nope,
> easy to use to boot.
>
> Have fun with it
>
> R
>
>
Ricooooooo!
You hang out here too?! Lot more silent than on alt.b.c.
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Posted by mm on August 16, 2006, 11:32 pm
wrote:
>
>mm wrote:
>> I got some tools left behind after a woman died, that her husband had
>> left behind 10 years ago when he died. Both were in their 80's. He
>> made furniture, at least as a hobby. There was some nice furniture
>> there that they were selling, that he made, that he and his wife had
>> used for, I think, decades.
>>
>> Two were a matching quarter inch drill and something I thought was a
>> drill, but is labeled Black & Decker Model 586 Tapgun.
>>
>> Now that I have the "tapgun" running, it only turns counter-clockwise
>> and it seems like a normal, low speed 1/4 inch drill, but it has a 1
>> inch push-back spring on the shaft just behind the chuck and
>> sometimes, like if I grab hold of the chuck, it seems to be moving
>> forwards and backwards, "tapping" the work.
>>
>> I've wanted a hammer drill since I saw they made them (because they
>> make them), but I've never actually seen one run in hammer mode. Is
>> this a pre-cursor, since it only seems to tap and not hammer, or is it
>> just that this is B&D's name, and hammer drill is generic. Web
>> searches find nothing for me.
>>
>> Why does it only turn counter-clockwise? And what is this especially
>> good for! I like it because it's old, but it really should do
>> something. :)
>>
>>
>> (Both have matching steel cases and 3-prong plugs, and this one was
>> broken. The trigger wouldn't pull in, but last night I fixed that
>> (only needed lubrication, but I think I had to take it apart to reach
>> the right spot))
>
>I picked up Porter Cable's version at an auction some years back. It's
>not useful on every project, but it's very useful when you need to tap
>a lot of holes quickly. Did you ever tap wood? It works great,
No, I've never tapped wood. Is this so wood screws, or maybe lag
screws, will go in easier? Why tap wood?
>especially in the nice dense tight-grained woods. That spring loaded
>nose is the automatic part. It rotates in (clockwise) when you push
>down and it reverses when you pull up on the tool. First time I tried
>it I was _sure_ that I'd be snapping taps all over the place, but nope,
>easy to use to boot.
So I'd have to have taps, too. They weren't included... well, maybe
they were. There's a a cardboard box and a tool box and I haven't
looked closely through everything yet.
>Have fun with it
I think I will. Thanks to you and Mike.
>R
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Posted by RicodJour on August 17, 2006, 8:36 am
mm wrote:
> wrote:
> >
> >I picked up Porter Cable's version at an auction some years back. It's
> >not useful on every project, but it's very useful when you need to tap
> >a lot of holes quickly. Did you ever tap wood? It works great,
>
> No, I've never tapped wood. Is this so wood screws, or maybe lag
> screws, will go in easier? Why tap wood?
I tap the wood if there's a part that might be taken off and
reassembled more than a few times and I use machine screws.
> >especially in the nice dense tight-grained woods. That spring loaded
> >nose is the automatic part. It rotates in (clockwise) when you push
> >down and it reverses when you pull up on the tool. First time I tried
> >it I was _sure_ that I'd be snapping taps all over the place, but nope,
> >easy to use to boot.
>
> So I'd have to have taps, too. They weren't included... well, maybe
> they were. There's a a cardboard box and a tool box and I haven't
> looked closely through everything yet.
Well, if the guy had a automatic tapping gun there should be some taps
flating around. If you can't find them, you can often find boxes of
taps at garage sales and the like.
> >Have fun with it
>
> I think I will. Thanks to you and Mike.
You're welcome.
R
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Posted by mm on August 17, 2006, 1:11 pm
wrote:
>mm wrote:
>>
>> No, I've never tapped wood. Is this so wood screws, or maybe lag
>> screws, will go in easier? Why tap wood?
>
>I tap the wood if there's a part that might be taken off and
>reassembled more than a few times and I use machine screws.
Well, in case I can't find them in what I got from the guy's
granddaughter, I looked on the web and the first clear hits on "tap
wood" were from Harbor Freight of all places and they have 1" bottom
taps for 6 dollars and 1/2" for 4 dollars. So these aren't hard to
get! I don't remember seeing them before.
On the same page was listed
" 4 PC. LEFT HAND HIGH SPEED STEEL DRILL BIT SET
4 PC. LEFT HAND HIGH SPEED STEEL DRILL BIT SET
Remove bolts or studs easily when the head breaks off. Eliminate the
need to bore out and re-tap the hole. Simply drill a hole in the
broken stud, insert a screw extractor, turn the extractor with a tap
wrench and back them out. Made from high speed steel. Only for use
with reversible drills.
* Includes 4 left-handed drill bits: 1/8'', 3/16'', 1/4'', and
3/8''
ITEM 38180-4VGA $5.99"
By Drill Master. I don't think Vermont American has more than 2 of
these sizes, and although I'm sure the quality is low here, the price
is cheap. Just two days ago, I had to get a screw out of the tapgun
itself. I had already used liquid wrench and I couldn't use a nut
cracker as someone suggeested in anotther thread, because the "nut"
was part of the drill. I was going to use a left-handed drill, but
tried an impact wrench with a flat screwdriver bit first. Of course
that risked breaking the piece of the drill case, and driling wouldn't
have.
>Well, if the guy had a automatic tapping gun there should be some taps
>flating around. If you can't find them, you can often find boxes of
>taps at garage sales and the like.
I always look at garage sales, but around here, not too many tools.
Just baby clothes!
>> >Have fun with it
>>
>> I think I will. Thanks to you and Mike.
>
>You're welcome.
>
>R
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