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Breaking up concrete Dave Martindale 04-04-2008
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Posted by Dave Martindale on April 4, 2008, 2:26 pm
Our house has a flower bed immediately in front of the foundation.
There's a patch in the flower bed that has no significant plants growing
in it, and we decided to add some. When we tried to dig a hole to plant
them, we discovered why there aren't any plants there:

It seems that someone had some leftover concrete, perhaps from pouring a
stairway nearby that goes from driveway level up to front lawn level,
and they simply dumped the excess concrete into the area that would
eventually be the flower bed. There is a chunk of concrete about 6
inches thick, 6 feet long, and 2.5 feet wide in there, with a few inches
of dirt over it. The concrete is not attached to the foundation or the
sidewalk, it's just lying there. But it's too heavy to move as a single
piece.

So I've been breaking it up into smaller pieces, using a single-point
concrete chisel and a 3 pound club hammer. This just doesn't work very
well for breaking 6 inch thick concrete. I end up holding the chisel in
one hand and the hammer in the other until I get the chisel embedded far
enough to stand up on its own, then I switch to two hands on the hammer.
Sometimes this works in a half-dozen strikes, sometimes it never works
and I try moving the chisel somewhere else. I've probably spent a
couple of hours on this already, and it's down to half the original
size, but progress is discouragingly slow.

The two ways to improve the situation seem to be: get a bigger hammer
(e.g. a long-handled sledgehammer), or some sort of power hammer. What
would be suitable for 6 inch concrete?

        Dave

Posted by BETA-33 on April 4, 2008, 2:45 pm
1) You can rent an electric jack hammer from any tool rental place. They
are fairly inexpensive to rent and I think should probably work.

2) You can use a 4x4, or a strong crow bar, or something similar, as a
lever to raise one end of the concrete up. Then place something solid under
the raised piece of concrete. Then hit the concrete with a sledge hammer.
When the concrete is embedded in the dirt, hitting it with a sledge hammer
probably will not break it, but when it's raised up a few inches, hitting it
will cause it to crack and break.

3) You can dig a deeper hole next to and under the remaining piece of
concrete and just bury it deeper into the ground where it is.

> Our house has a flower bed immediately in front of the foundation.
> There's a patch in the flower bed that has no significant plants growing
> in it, and we decided to add some. When we tried to dig a hole to plant
> them, we discovered why there aren't any plants there:
>
> It seems that someone had some leftover concrete, perhaps from pouring a
> stairway nearby that goes from driveway level up to front lawn level,
> and they simply dumped the excess concrete into the area that would
> eventually be the flower bed. There is a chunk of concrete about 6
> inches thick, 6 feet long, and 2.5 feet wide in there, with a few inches
> of dirt over it. The concrete is not attached to the foundation or the
> sidewalk, it's just lying there. But it's too heavy to move as a single
> piece.
>
> So I've been breaking it up into smaller pieces, using a single-point
> concrete chisel and a 3 pound club hammer. This just doesn't work very
> well for breaking 6 inch thick concrete. I end up holding the chisel in
> one hand and the hammer in the other until I get the chisel embedded far
> enough to stand up on its own, then I switch to two hands on the hammer.
> Sometimes this works in a half-dozen strikes, sometimes it never works
> and I try moving the chisel somewhere else. I've probably spent a
> couple of hours on this already, and it's down to half the original
> size, but progress is discouragingly slow.
>
> The two ways to improve the situation seem to be: get a bigger hammer
> (e.g. a long-handled sledgehammer), or some sort of power hammer. What
> would be suitable for 6 inch concrete?
>
> Dave



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2) You can use a 4x4, or a strong crow bar, or something similar, as a
lever to raise one end of the concrete up. Then place something solid under
the raised piece of concrete. Then hit the concrete with a sledge hammer.
When the concrete is embedded in the dirt, hitting it with a sledge hammer
probably will not break it, but when it's raised up a few inches, hitting it
will cause it to crack and break.




Posted by Dave Martindale on April 5, 2008, 12:13 pm

>2) You can use a 4x4, or a strong crow bar, or something similar, as a
>lever to raise one end of the concrete up. Then place something solid under
>the raised piece of concrete. Then hit the concrete with a sledge hammer.
>When the concrete is embedded in the dirt, hitting it with a sledge hammer
>probably will not break it, but when it's raised up a few inches, hitting it
>will cause it to crack and break.

Though I didn't mention it, I'm already doing this. Using a heavy
shovel and a digging fork, I've been prying up one end of the concrete
and putting a rock underneath it, a few inches back from the end, so
that the concrete is unsupported at the end and stresses in the concrete
are concentrated around the rock. Without that, I would have gotten
nowhere with the hammer and chisel.

It seems the most common recommendation is to just get a bigger hammer
and hit the concrete with it directly, forgetting about the chisel. So
I think I'll try that.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

        Dave


Posted by Rich on April 5, 2008, 12:28 pm

>
>>2) You can use a 4x4, or a strong crow bar, or something similar, as a
>>lever to raise one end of the concrete up. Then place something solid
>>under
>>the raised piece of concrete. Then hit the concrete with a sledge hammer.
>>When the concrete is embedded in the dirt, hitting it with a sledge hammer
>>probably will not break it, but when it's raised up a few inches, hitting
>>it
>>will cause it to crack and break.
>
> Though I didn't mention it, I'm already doing this. Using a heavy
> shovel and a digging fork, I've been prying up one end of the concrete
> and putting a rock underneath it, a few inches back from the end, so
> that the concrete is unsupported at the end and stresses in the concrete
> are concentrated around the rock. Without that, I would have gotten
> nowhere with the hammer and chisel.
>
> It seems the most common recommendation is to just get a bigger hammer
> and hit the concrete with it directly, forgetting about the chisel. So
> I think I'll try that.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions!
>
> Dave
>

Call the police and tell them John Wayne Gacy rented the house years ago and
your smelling something foul coming through the concrete. You'll have a crew
there in no time.




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