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Building new steps with bricks.. a nuff nuff question or few .. benaud2 08-07-2006
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Posted by on August 7, 2006, 8:44 pm
Hi all,

I have a question about building steps (2 to be exact) using bricks. I
am familiar with laying bricks but not sure what the standard method is
when it comes to step making.. Essentially there will be two steps
running in between two brick pillars.

My nuffter questions are as follows and I apologise in advance.. :))

Do you lay a perimeter of brick and fill with concrete (there is
already a solid concrete base), OR do you fill completely with bricks
and build layer by layer from the ground up OR do you lay a perimeter
of brick with some cross sections such as this -> ---|-----|--- for a
compromise between the two. The top will be capped by a bluestone or
limestone type of thing, and the front view - brick riser etc rendered.

Also do you need to "join" the steps into the pillar when building the
pillar and steps from the ground up to give it extra strength?

I would like the steps to be around the 2.5 brick width wide. If I lay
two brick widths along as a step then the capping stone would overhang
a little which I understand is not good as they eventually may
chip/break with no support. If I lay 3 bricks width wide then it feels
just a little tooo big for what I want.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Thanks


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on August 7, 2006, 9:03 pm
Cant help most of your questions sorry but be SURE to use the right
kind of bricks, some cant be used for pavers they absorb water spall
and fall apart.

use paver type


Posted by on August 8, 2006, 7:16 pm
Thanks - I have a bunch of seconds bricks all good quality. They are
the solid core red bricks so I assume that will be strong enough if
setup correctly


hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> Cant help most of your questions sorry but be SURE to use the right
> kind of bricks, some cant be used for pavers they absorb water spall
> and fall apart.
>
> use paver type


Posted by on August 8, 2006, 7:41 pm
Thanks - I have a bunch of seconds bricks all good quality. They are
the solid core red bricks so I assume that will be strong enough if
setup correctly


hallerb@aol.com wrote:
> Cant help most of your questions sorry but be SURE to use the right
> kind of bricks, some cant be used for pavers they absorb water spall
> and fall apart.
>
> use paver type


Posted by Italian on August 8, 2006, 8:34 pm
I can help you with this step by step but first...what the heck are you
talking about here?
> Do you lay a perimeter of brick and fill with concrete (there is
> already a solid concrete base), OR do you fill completely with bricks
> and build layer by layer from the ground up OR do you lay a perimeter
> of brick with some cross sections such as this -> ---|-----|--- for a
> compromise between the two.

Ok.....Ok.........I just got it...sorry. If you want brick to show on
the the step riser simply lay the stone first on the step (first step
at the bottom) then face the riser lay the second stone face the riser
ect. Lay = industry term laying block, laying brick, laying stone....

It sounds like you dont want to "build" steps you want to "face" a set
of concrete steps 2 very different things..

> Also do you need to "join" the steps into the pillar when building the
> pillar and steps from the ground up to give it extra strength?

Are the pillars going to be resting on the steps? or are they at the
top resting on the landing? In either case NO you do not have to "join
them" Im just trying to get a better picture of what you are doing.

>If I lay
> two brick widths along as a step then the capping stone would overhang
> a little which I understand is not good as they eventually may
> chip/break with no support.

If each step if going to be capped you would only need to put the brick
on the face of the "riser" (the part at the front of your shoe) as this
is the only area that would be visable correct? Also a little bit of an
over hang is not going to be a problem with both materials you have
listed. If you are under a couple of inches (2) this is fine. You also
have the option to cut the stone or have them cut to size from your
suplier.


benaud2@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a question about building steps (2 to be exact) using bricks. I
> am familiar with laying bricks but not sure what the standard method is
> when it comes to step making.. Essentially there will be two steps
> running in between two brick pillars.
> My nuffter questions are as follows and I apologise in advance.. :))
> Do you lay a perimeter of brick and fill with concrete (there is
> already a solid concrete base), OR do you fill completely with bricks
> and build layer by layer from the ground up OR do you lay a perimeter
> of brick with some cross sections such as this -> ---|-----|--- for a
> compromise between the two. The top will be capped by a bluestone or
> limestone type of thing, and the front view - brick riser etc rendered.
> Also do you need to "join" the steps into the pillar when building the
> pillar and steps from the ground up to give it extra strength?
> I would like the steps to be around the 2.5 brick width wide. If I lay
> two brick widths along as a step then the capping stone would overhang
> a little which I understand is not good as they eventually may
> chip/break with no support. If I lay 3 bricks width wide then it feels
> just a little tooo big for what I want.
>
> Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks


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