Building steps

Posted by JIMMIE on May 17, 2009, 6:53 pm

My friend is building some new concrete steps to his back porch. He
has some old chevy blocks , brake drums and general automotive iron he
wants to get rid of . If these items are clean of fluids is there any
reason we couldnt use them as fill in the steps.

Jimmie

Posted by Limp Arbor on May 17, 2009, 7:23 pm

> My friend is building some new concrete steps to his back porch. He
> has some old chevy blocks , brake drums and general automotive iron he
> wants to get rid of . If these items are clean of fluids is there any
> reason we couldnt use them as fill in the steps.
> Jimmie

I would not use them because as they corrode they will at first get
bigger (Think about the flakes that come off your drums & rotors).
Then as they corrode further you could be left with a substantial
void.

If you don't want to take the junk to the scrapyard yourself then call
the junk guy. Look in either Craigslist or your local paper usually
in the cars for sale section.

Cinder blocks are cheap and sometimes free, again try craigslist.

Posted by Doug Miller on May 17, 2009, 8:00 pm

>> My friend is building some new concrete steps to his back porch. He
>> has some old chevy blocks , brake drums and general automotive iron he
>> wants to get rid of . If these items are clean of fluids is there any
>> reason we couldnt use them as fill in the steps.
>> Jimmie

>I would not use them because as they corrode they will at first get
>bigger (Think about the flakes that come off your drums & rotors).
>Then as they corrode further you could be left with a substantial
>void.

How are they going to get bigger while they're encased in concrete?

Posted by norminn@earthlink.net on May 17, 2009, 8:33 pm

Doug Miller wrote:

> In article

>>> My friend is building some new concrete steps to his back porch. He
>>> has some old chevy blocks , brake drums and general automotive iron he
>>> wants to get rid of . If these items are clean of fluids is there any
>>> reason we couldnt use them as fill in the steps.
>>> Jimmie

>> I would not use them because as they corrode they will at first get
>> bigger (Think about the flakes that come off your drums & rotors).
>> Then as they corrode further you could be left with a substantial
>> void.

>
> How are they going to get bigger while they're encased in concrete?

Big problem in Florida - lots of buildings with balconies have had to
rework the concrete. Rebar rusted, expanded and cracked the concrete.
Some problems with the issue in our condo, but nothing structural.
Building down the street, about 12 storey, had a great deal of work done
for the problem.

Posted by mm on May 17, 2009, 8:43 pm

On Sun, 17 May 2009 20:33:40 -0400, "norminn@earthlink.net"

>Big problem in Florida - lots of buildings with balconies have had to
>rework the concrete. Rebar rusted, expanded and cracked the concrete.

Haven't they been using rebar for 50 or 100 years? Did something
change so that it rusts now?

>Some problems with the issue in our condo, but nothing structural.
>Building down the street, about 12 storey, had a great deal of work done
>for the problem.

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