Bulding an outdoor basement stairway entrance

Posted by Beta-42 on October 10, 2009, 1:16 pm

fftt wrote:

>> I have a property that has an outdoor concrete stairway that leads

> But then you start asking questions that indicate a total lack of
> understanding of the details"
> how to build the new wall & landing
> footing design & construction
> footing base
> rebar
> Get a couple guys out to look at the job. I think you;re going to get
> major "sticker shock".
> Where are oyu located? Oregon? Texas? New Jersey? Arizona?
> The cost & the effort to do this.........is it really worth doing just
> to eliminate those extra steps inside the basement?

I am in New Jersey, near Philadelphia, PA.

I do expect sticker shock, but I guess I'll just have to get a few
contractors out there to look at it and give me the low-down. I do have
someone who can do the work and "mostly" knows what he is doing. He can do
the dig out by machine, and he knows how to do most concrete and concrete
block work, but I don't have confidence that he knows the "details" that I
was asking about.

The two-door idea is for a different reason than just to elimnate the extra
steps in the basement. The building is a rental property and the "basement"
is actually a lower level finished apartment. I want to add a second door
that will be an outside entrance that would lead to the heater room so it
can be accessed directly from the outside without having to go into the
lower level apartment.

Posted by fftt on October 11, 2009, 2:05 am

> fftt wrote:

> >> I have a property that has an outdoor concrete stairway that leads

> > But then you start asking questions that indicate a total lack of
> > understanding of the details"
> > how to build the new wall & landing
> > footing design & construction
> > footing base
> > rebar
> > Get a couple guys out to look at the job. =A0I think you;re going to ge=

> > major "sticker shock".
> > Where are oyu located? =A0Oregon? Texas? New Jersey? =A0 =A0Arizona?
> > The cost & the effort to do this.........is it really worth doing just
> > to eliminate those extra steps inside the basement?

> I am in New Jersey, near Philadelphia, PA.
> I do expect sticker shock, but I guess I'll just have to get a few
> contractors out there to look at it and give me the low-down. =A0I do hav=

> someone who can do the work and "mostly" knows what he is doing. =A0He ca=

n do

> the dig out by machine, and he knows how to do most concrete and concrete
> block work, but I don't have confidence that he knows the "details" that =

> was asking about.
> The two-door idea is for a different reason than just to elimnate the ext=

> steps in the basement. =A0The building is a rental property and the "base=

ment"

> is actually a lower level finished apartment. =A0I want to add a second d=

oor

> that will be an outside entrance that would lead to the heater room so it
> can be accessed directly from the outside without having to go into the
> lower level apartment.

How often do you need to access this heater room? How about an
adjacent "well" next to the existing one & drop in a prefab spiral
stair?

cheers
Bob

Posted by aemeijers on October 11, 2009, 7:20 am

fftt wrote:

>> fftt wrote:

>>>> I have a property that has an outdoor concrete stairway that leads
>>> But then you start asking questions that indicate a total lack of
>>> understanding of the details"
>>> how to build the new wall & landing
>>> footing design & construction
>>> footing base
>>> rebar
>>> Get a couple guys out to look at the job. I think you;re going to get
>>> major "sticker shock".
>>> Where are oyu located? Oregon? Texas? New Jersey? Arizona?
>>> The cost & the effort to do this.........is it really worth doing just
>>> to eliminate those extra steps inside the basement?

>> I am in New Jersey, near Philadelphia, PA.
>> I do expect sticker shock, but I guess I'll just have to get a few
>> contractors out there to look at it and give me the low-down. I do have
>> someone who can do the work and "mostly" knows what he is doing. He can do
>> the dig out by machine, and he knows how to do most concrete and concrete
>> block work, but I don't have confidence that he knows the "details" that I
>> was asking about.
>> The two-door idea is for a different reason than just to elimnate the extra
>> steps in the basement. The building is a rental property and the "basement"
>> is actually a lower level finished apartment. I want to add a second door
>> that will be an outside entrance that would lead to the heater room so it
>> can be accessed directly from the outside without having to go into the
>> lower level apartment.

>
> How often do you need to access this heater room? How about an
> adjacent "well" next to the existing one & drop in a prefab spiral
> stair?
>
> cheers
> Bob

Pretty hard getting a new water heater or furnace down a spiral staircase...

--
aem sends...

Posted by fftt on October 11, 2009, 4:07 pm

> fftt wrote:

> >> fftt wrote:
> >>>> I have a property that has an outdoor concrete stairway that leads
> >>> But then you start asking questions that indicate a total lack of
> >>> understanding of the details"
> >>> how to build the new wall & landing
> >>> footing design & construction
> >>> footing base
> >>> rebar
> >>> Get a couple guys out to look at the job. =A0I think you;re going to =

get

> >>> major "sticker shock".
> >>> Where are oyu located? =A0Oregon? Texas? New Jersey? =A0 =A0Arizona?
> >>> The cost & the effort to do this.........is it really worth doing jus=

> >>> to eliminate those extra steps inside the basement?
> >> I am in New Jersey, near Philadelphia, PA.
> >> I do expect sticker shock, but I guess I'll just have to get a few
> >> contractors out there to look at it and give me the low-down. =A0I do =

have

> >> someone who can do the work and "mostly" knows what he is doing. =A0He=

can do

> >> the dig out by machine, and he knows how to do most concrete and concr=

ete

> >> block work, but I don't have confidence that he knows the "details" th=

at I

> >> was asking about.
> >> The two-door idea is for a different reason than just to elimnate the =

extra

> >> steps in the basement. =A0The building is a rental property and the "b=

asement"

> >> is actually a lower level finished apartment. =A0I want to add a secon=

d door

> >> that will be an outside entrance that would lead to the heater room so=

> >> can be accessed directly from the outside without having to go into th=

> >> lower level apartment.

> > How often do you need to access this heater room? =A0 How about an
> > adjacent "well" next to the existing one & drop in a prefab spiral
> > stair?
> > cheers
> > Bob

> Pretty hard getting a new water heater or furnace down a spiral staircase=

...

> --
> aem sends...

That would be kinda hard. I was figuring on the "new access" being
used on a weekly or monthly basis and the "old access" being used for
the major stuff; water heater / furnace replacement"

Unfortunately the OP's desires & requirements are not fully disclosed.

cheers
Bob

btw...not that I'm suggesting it........ but you might be surprised
what can go up & down a spiral or curved stair.

Posted by Beta-42 on October 11, 2009, 4:29 pm

How often do you need to access this heater room? How about an
adjacent "well" next to the existing one & drop in a prefab spiral
stair?

cheers
Bob

--------------------

Thanks for the suggestion. The heater room has 3 gas-fired baseboard heater
units and 3 gas hot wanter heater units. It's a 3-unit apartment building.
I have considered various other designs and layouts but, at least for now,
I'm trying to find out more about what the design I have in mind would
involve.

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