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Bulding an outdoor basement stairway entrance Beta-42 10-10-2009
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Posted by benick on October 11, 2009, 9:17 pm



> Oops. JayTKR = Beta-42. I posted this from a different computer which
> has my JayTKR username set up instead of my Beta-42 username.
>>> EXT wrote:
>>>> You will need to ensure that the existing footings of the house, or
>>>> change the footings of the house so that they are below the frost line
>>>> in your area, you will find that this also applies horizontally so that
>>>> when frost enters the stairway wall it will freeze the ground in all
>>>> directions, left, right and down. For example if you have a 4 foot
>>>> frost level you will need the house and any permanent stair walls to
>>>> have footings 4 feet below the bottom landing and for 4 feet on each
>>>> side of the stairway opening, as well as below the angled portion of
>>>> the decending stairs of they run beside the house foundation wall.
>>> So how do they install all the precast outside basement stairwells I see
>>> sitting at the concrete plant on the way to work every morning? Or do
>>> they consider those a window well, since they aren't really attached to
>>> the house?
>> Interesting. I hadn't thought or heard about precast basement stairs. I
>> just did a Google search and found these links:
>>
http://video.bobvila.com/m/21320387/installing-pre-cast-concrete-basement-stairs-and-a-bulkhead.htm
>> http://www.careyprecast.com/permentry.htm
>> http://en.allexperts.com/q/Home-Improvement-General-688/cellar-egress.htm
>> Although all of these show typical "Bilco"-style basement entrance steps,
>> and not the kind of stairways that I want that run parallel to the wall,
>> I didn't see anything on any of them calling for footings, frost line
>> issues, etc.

Those are for regular single family homes and may not be legal for all
areas...It doesn't matter though because you have a commercial building....A
whole different ball of wax...Especially in NJ...LOL...


Posted by fftt on October 12, 2009, 11:15 am


> > Oops. =A0JayTKR =3D Beta-42. =A0I posted this from a different computer=
which
> > has my JayTKR username set up instead of my Beta-42 username.
> >>> EXT wrote:
> >>>> You will need to ensure that the existing footings of the house, or
> >>>> change the footings of the house so that they are below the frost li=
ne
> >>>> in your area, you will find that this also applies horizontally so t=
hat
> >>>> when frost enters the stairway wall it will freeze the ground in all
> >>>> directions, left, right and down. For example if you have a 4 foot
> >>>> frost level you will need the house and any permanent stair walls to
> >>>> have footings 4 feet below the bottom landing and for 4 feet on each
> >>>> side of the stairway opening, as well as below the angled portion of
> >>>> the decending stairs of they run beside the house foundation wall.
> >>> So how do they install all the precast outside basement stairwells I =
see
> >>> sitting at the concrete plant on the way to work every morning? Or do
> >>> they consider those a window well, since they aren't really attached =
to
> >>> the house?
> >> Interesting. =A0I hadn't thought or heard about precast basement stair=
s. =A0I
> >> just did a Google search and found these links:
> >>http://video.bobvila.com/m/21320387/installing-pre-cast-concrete-base..=
.
> >>http://www.careyprecast.com/permentry.htm
> >>http://en.allexperts.com/q/Home-Improvement-General-688/cellar-egress..=
.
> >> Although all of these show typical "Bilco"-style basement entrance ste=
ps,
> >> and not the kind of stairways that I want that run parallel to the wal=
l,
> >> I didn't see anything on any of them calling for footings, frost line
> >> issues, etc.
> Those are for regular single family homes and may not be legal for all
> areas...It doesn't matter though because you have a commercial building..=
..A
> whole different ball of wax...Especially in NJ...LOL...

Another good point...I missed NJ as the job location. All bets are
off. :)

But maybe a spiral would be ok since its access to a "non-occupied"
space.....like a utility room in a commercial building?

cheers
Bob

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