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CO gas from broiler Della T 02-11-2007
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Posted by Della T on February 11, 2007, 3:51 pm


I just bought a CO detector, and wanted to try it on everything that
burns. Neither my stove-top burners nor my oven produced any measurable
CO. This made me a little suspicious until I tried my separate broiler.
The reading on the meter reached 100 ppm within 45 minutes. Yes, I
had thoroughly vented the house since testing the oven. The reading was
confirmed by a second measurement a day later.

So I thought I could just adjust the oxygen mixture by opening the
window on the gas line to the broiler. CO is the result of a rich
mixture (not enough oxygen), right? But the window was already open all
the way. So I thought I might as well try closing it down. This time
the measurement reached 100 ppm even faster - about 30 minutes. I don't
know if that time difference is scientifically significant; I didn't
want to continue or repeat the experiment.

Is there anything other than the mixture adjustment that I should look
at? Or is the burner damaged beyond repair? It does make a little
sense that a burner that sits ABOVE the flame could be damaged, but I
don't know if that would create CO.

Thanks,
Della

Posted by Joe on February 11, 2007, 4:08 pm


> I just bought a CO detector, and wanted to try it on everything that
> burns. Neither my stove-top burners nor my oven produced any measurable
> CO. This made me a little suspicious until I tried my separate broiler.
> The reading on the meter reached 100 ppm within 45 minutes. Yes, I
> had thoroughly vented the house since testing the oven. The reading was
> confirmed by a second measurement a day later.
> So I thought I could just adjust the oxygen mixture by opening the
> window on the gas line to the broiler. CO is the result of a rich
> mixture (not enough oxygen), right? But the window was already open all
> the way. So I thought I might as well try closing it down. This time
> the measurement reached 100 ppm even faster - about 30 minutes. I don't
> know if that time difference is scientifically significant; I didn't
> want to continue or repeat the experiment.
> Is there anything other than the mixture adjustment that I should look
> at? Or is the burner damaged beyond repair? It does make a little
> sense that a burner that sits ABOVE the flame could be damaged, but I
> don't know if that would create CO.
> Thanks,
> Della

As Uncle Vernal used to say, 'If you can't lower the river, raise the
bridge.' So to change your combustion ratio with a fixed air inlet,
lower the gas flow. On some burner outlets, this can be adjusted by
rotating the output nozzle. If the nozzle has a hex base this will fit
a standard box wrench and turning a small amount clockwise will reduce
gas flow. You may need some expert help on this, so check with
repairclinic.com as one source.
Your gas service may have higher than average pressure, and ranges are
often equipped with an adjustable regulator to deal with problems of
that kind. You gas supplier may be able to help in that case...give
them a call. Good luck.

Joe


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on February 11, 2007, 5:33 pm


> > I just bought a CO detector, and wanted to try it on everything that
> > burns. =A0Neither my stove-top burners nor my oven produced any measura=
ble
> > CO. =A0This made me a little suspicious until I tried my separate broil=
er.
> > =A0 The reading on the meter reached 100 ppm within 45 minutes. =A0Yes,=
I
> > had thoroughly vented the house since testing the oven. The reading was
> > confirmed by a second measurement a day later.
> > So I thought I could just adjust the oxygen mixture by opening the
> > window on the gas line to the broiler. =A0CO is the result of a rich
> > mixture (not enough oxygen), right? =A0But the window was already open =
all
> > the way. =A0So I thought I might as well try closing it down. =A0This t=
ime
> > the measurement reached 100 ppm even faster - about 30 minutes. =A0I do=
n't
> > know if that time difference is scientifically significant; I didn't
> > want to continue or repeat the experiment.
> > Is there anything other than the mixture adjustment that I should look
> > at? =A0Or is the burner damaged beyond repair? =A0It does make a little
> > sense that a burner =A0that sits ABOVE the flame could be damaged, but I
> > don't know if that would create CO.
> > Thanks,
> > Della
> As Uncle Vernal used to say, 'If you can't lower the river, raise the
> bridge.' So to change your combustion ratio with a fixed air inlet,
> lower the gas flow. On some burner outlets, this can be adjusted by
> rotating the output nozzle. If the nozzle has a hex base this will fit
> a standard box wrench and turning a small amount clockwise will reduce
> gas flow. You may need some expert help on this, so check with
> repairclinic.com as one source.
> Your gas service may have higher than average pressure, and ranges are
> often equipped with an adjustable regulator to deal with problems of
> that kind. =A0You gas supplier may be able to help in that case...give
> them a call. =A0Good luck.
> Joe- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

Just leave it alone, its normal a brolier is a HIGH btu appliance, the
higher the BTU the higher amount of CO2, leave window OPEN when using
and be prepared for nuisance trips during brolier operations


Posted by Big_Jake on February 11, 2007, 11:41 pm


I assume you mean CO?

For the OP-

What are you cooking that needs to be BROILED for over 30 minutes?

JK


> Just leave it alone, its normal a brolier is a HIGH btu appliance, the
> higher the BTU the higher amount of CO2, leave window OPEN when using
> and be prepared for nuisance trips during brolier operations



Posted by Della T on February 17, 2007, 10:52 am


Thanks to everyone for the replies.

Joe, yours was a great idea. Yet it seems like I only have one
regulator for the entire stove/oven/broiler. I haven't yet been able to
set aside the time to wait to a gas company employee to come out and
check for another means of adjustment. I will soon.

Big_Jake, I don't need to broil anything for 30 minutes. I rarely broil
at all. But I don't like the idea of an appliance that could
surreptitiously hurt me. Even worse would be the situation in which I
give this stove away, and it hurts someone else who doesn't have a CO
detector.

Della

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