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Posted by pauly on May 27, 2006, 8:52 am
http://orebweb2.oreb.ca/mlssearch/frm_SearchMlsDetails.asp?x_mls_num=632813
It is 40x38ft, solid concrete base and sides, completed insulated loft
area, steel beams, has its own furnace and 200 amps service.
secondary pictures at:
http://www.glassartists.org/Gal18932_A_new_glass_studio_is_born.asp
It actually has far more footage then the older house. I am planning to
start up my glass studio abeit on a small scale initially. I know the
owner 2 sales ago built it but theres some debate on how much it cost
to complete. Im sure he also got 20-30cents on the dollar for the
investment.
Now I will take many safety precautions prior to setting up glass
including isolated a roof wall area with fireproof material and a
ventilation system. Professional arrives to install propane line and
tank outside for torch fuel.
That being said, wondering how much it would cost to replace if the
worse did happen, excluding the insurance issue. In that case I might
not involve insurance and suck it up myself.
I assume a fire would leave the concrete and steel frame recoverable?
Curious as to the bottom line on replacement in a worse case scenario
despite my best effort to avoid it.
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Posted by Tony Hwang on May 27, 2006, 11:00 am
pauly wrote:
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> http://orebweb2.oreb.ca/mlssearch/frm_SearchMlsDetails.asp?x_mls_num=632813
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> It is 40x38ft, solid concrete base and sides, completed insulated loft
> area, steel beams, has its own furnace and 200 amps service.
>
> secondary pictures at:
>
> http://www.glassartists.org/Gal18932_A_new_glass_studio_is_born.asp
>
> It actually has far more footage then the older house. I am planning to
> start up my glass studio abeit on a small scale initially. I know the
> owner 2 sales ago built it but theres some debate on how much it cost
> to complete. Im sure he also got 20-30cents on the dollar for the
> investment.
>
> Now I will take many safety precautions prior to setting up glass
> including isolated a roof wall area with fireproof material and a
> ventilation system. Professional arrives to install propane line and
> tank outside for torch fuel.
>
> That being said, wondering how much it would cost to replace if the
> worse did happen, excluding the insurance issue. In that case I might
> not involve insurance and suck it up myself.
> I assume a fire would leave the concrete and steel frame recoverable?
>
> Curious as to the bottom line on replacement in a worse case scenario
> despite my best effort to avoid it.
>
Hi,
Why don't you ask local contractor? If it were where I am with hottest
housing market(price goes up 5% evey month), minimum 200.00 per sq.
foot. Needs it for insurance? In a severe fire even concrete/steel can
melt. Having no insurance coverage would be foolish. Just my two bits.
Think sprinkler system.
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Posted by Chris Lewis on June 2, 2006, 2:35 pm
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> That being said, wondering how much it would cost to replace if the
> worse did happen, excluding the insurance issue. In that case I might
> not involve insurance and suck it up myself.
> I assume a fire would leave the concrete and steel frame recoverable?
If the walls and ceiling didn't have any wood structure (rafters/sheathing/studs
etc), some of it _might_ be recoverable.
If it _did_ have wooden structure... Probably nothing recoverable.
A full engulfment fire on a stick frame building (with/without steel
support beams) will not only turn the steel beams into twisted puddles,
it'll even ruin poured concrete in basement walls/foundations.
[In a housing development fire a while back, where something like 35
just-complete/near-complete houses burned down, even the poured concrete
basements had to be ripped out and replaced. Concrete doesn't like fire.
A hot fire causes the water-cement chemical complex in concrete to explosively
spall - surface erosion by itty bitty steam explosions. The walls
may remain upright, but they'll be very badly damaged, and likely
condemned as unsafe - you wouldn't be permitted to reuse them.]
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> Curious as to the bottom line on replacement in a worse case scenario
> despite my best effort to avoid it.
As a rule of thumb, you might want to use a local $/foot construction
cost for typical house construction, and perhaps use 50-75% of that
(depending on level of trimout/interior finish etc) as a (very very)
rough estimate.
Otherwise, get an insurance company to quote on it.
What you have sounds to be in the low-mid 5 figures to replace.
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on June 2, 2006, 3:10 pm
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>> I assume a fire would leave the concrete and steel frame recoverable?
Assume nothing. The place I worked at some years ago had a fire. Brick and
block walls, Heavy beams for supports of walls and roof. Only thing
recoverable was the concrete pad. Big loader just scraped up all the
debris.
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> It is 40x38ft, solid concrete base and sides, completed insulated loft
> area, steel beams, has its own furnace and 200 amps service.
>
> secondary pictures at:
>
> http://www.glassartists.org/Gal18932_A_new_glass_studio_is_born.asp
>
> It actually has far more footage then the older house. I am planning to
> start up my glass studio abeit on a small scale initially. I know the
> owner 2 sales ago built it but theres some debate on how much it cost
> to complete. Im sure he also got 20-30cents on the dollar for the
> investment.
>
> Now I will take many safety precautions prior to setting up glass
> including isolated a roof wall area with fireproof material and a
> ventilation system. Professional arrives to install propane line and
> tank outside for torch fuel.
>
> That being said, wondering how much it would cost to replace if the
> worse did happen, excluding the insurance issue. In that case I might
> not involve insurance and suck it up myself.
> I assume a fire would leave the concrete and steel frame recoverable?
>
> Curious as to the bottom line on replacement in a worse case scenario
> despite my best effort to avoid it.
>