Celebrate our freedoms this 4th of July

Posted by HeyBub on July 3, 2009, 2:35 pm

Han wrote:

>> dadiOH wrote:

>>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>>> Bring your library card, the FBI may ask you for it.
>>> Just be careful of the books you withdraw with it. The Koran and
>>> anything by Karl Marx are definite no-nos.

>> Not so. Actually they are on the best seller list since January.
>> Just don't buy a copy of the Constitution or anything written by a
>> Patriot.

> Well, this is one of many references to the Declaration of
> Independence: http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/
> Of course there is a lengthy document on Wikipedia as well.
> I still think that respect for others' opinions and rights is as
> important a basis for human relations.
> Now, I have my own opinions ...

An "opinion" is a belief with no substantial facts behind it.* Many of us
are don't care what others "believe" and we don't want to hear about it. I'm
only interested in what someone can prove.

By "prove" I mean present sufficient evidence that compels a rational mind
in the probable truth of the proposition.

Here's an example: I'm agnostic on the concept of UFOs, although,
mathematically, I tend to hold that the chance of an intelligent lifeform
monitoring us is vanishingly small. In spite of that, I could easily be
convinced as to their existence.

Put a piece of one in my hand.

Simple.

Conversely, no amount of personal anecdotes involving uncountably many anal
probes is a credible proof path.

--------
*"Opinion = a belief held with confidence but not substantiated by a
positive knowledge or proof."

Posted by Han on July 3, 2009, 11:29 am

> As we go out to celebrate our freedom this 4th
> of July, let's go over a few things to make your
> celebration a success.
>

Yes, be careful in what you do. Don't take offense at what others do and
don't give offense. Do state your opinions, and be ready for flames

<grin>.

--
Best regards
Han
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Posted by Jon Danniken on July 3, 2009, 4:24 pm

Stormin Mormon wrote:

> As we go out to troll usenet groups that haven't been all but destroyed
> through politically motivated bickering and infighting, let's remember to
> blah blah blah blah...

Aren't there already enough usenet groups brimming over with polical
bullshit?

Jon

Posted by norminn@earthlink.net on July 3, 2009, 6:32 pm

Made my brain tired tryin' to read all this stuff. Strangely, the
gov'mint hasn't kept me from trying to do anything I want to do, with
the possible exception of keeping my shoes on....since I live in Florida
and only wear sandals, it isn't really an issue. Of course, if I made
bank transfers of more than 10k, I'd be pissed at their snooping but
really glad to have the cash. If I become a gork with mostly dead brain
tissue, the paperwork will assure any political campaigner that my
family didn't off me and that I could not possibly have been pregnant or
out of my mind when I composed it. Have heard some unsettling opinions
of the next coming census questionnaire, but if they come knocking and
want more info than I care to give them, they can take me away and
support me in the manner to which I have become accustomed. I haven't
the need to carry an assault weapon, as it won't fit in my purse and I
can't find my car keys as it is now. I may check out a library book
just to get their juices flowing, but with budget cutbacks, they
probably already have me in the "boring as hell" profile drawer. I do
worry about local PD and their propensity to write their own law, so the
feds are a long way off in the realm of things to really worry about.

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