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ChiCom Crap costing me money!!! evodawg 05-09-2008
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Posted by evodawg on May 9, 2008, 10:38 am
Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from China.
Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather large
mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring my work and
the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger bracket broke. I
caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor. The customer looked
at me like I was an idiot. Upon further review the ring on mirror that hooks
to the hanger on the wall completely separated. It was not welded just
pressed together. I explained this to the customer but of course it
couldn't be her problem since she bought a cheap piece of crap from China.

Doubt I will ever get a call from her again.

Rich
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586

Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on May 9, 2008, 10:58 am
> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
> China.
> Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather large
> mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring my work
> and
> the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger bracket broke. I
> caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor. The customer looked
> at me like I was an idiot. Upon further review the ring on mirror that
> hooks
> to the hanger on the wall completely separated. It was not welded just
> pressed together. I explained this to the customer but of course it
> couldn't be her problem since she bought a cheap piece of crap from China.
>
> Doubt I will ever get a call from her again.
>
> Rich


I guess you have to start inspecting everything you install, and if made in
China, get disclaimers signed by your customers.



Posted by evodawg on May 9, 2008, 12:07 pm
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

>> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
>> China.
>> Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather large
>> mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring my work
>> and
>> the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger bracket broke. I
>> caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor. The customer
>> looked at me like I was an idiot. Upon further review the ring on mirror
>> that hooks
>> to the hanger on the wall completely separated. It was not welded just
>> pressed together. I explained this to the customer but of course it
>> couldn't be her problem since she bought a cheap piece of crap from
>> China.
>>
>> Doubt I will ever get a call from her again.
>>
>> Rich
>
>
> I guess you have to start inspecting everything you install, and if made
> in China, get disclaimers signed by your customers.

Something like: Any PRODUCTS MADE IN CHINA will not be warrantied due to
inferior manufacturing practices.
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586

Posted by Red Green on May 9, 2008, 10:56 pm

> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
>>> China.
>>> Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather large
>>> mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring my
>>> work and
>>> the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger bracket
>>> broke. I caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor. The
>>> customer looked at me like I was an idiot. Upon further review the
>>> ring on mirror that hooks
>>> to the hanger on the wall completely separated. It was not welded
>>> just pressed together. I explained this to the customer but of
>>> course it couldn't be her problem since she bought a cheap piece of
>>> crap from China.
>>>
>>> Doubt I will ever get a call from her again.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
>>
>> I guess you have to start inspecting everything you install, and if
>> made in China, get disclaimers signed by your customers.
>
> Something like: Any PRODUCTS MADE IN CHINA will not be warrantied due
> to inferior manufacturing practices.

Better have another form handy for when the customers might be Chinese.
Well, maybe not...

Posted by pipedown on May 9, 2008, 3:54 pm

> Anyone else having this problem with cheap ass crap coming over from
> China.
> Did a bunch of odd jobs yesterday and one was hanging a rather large
> mirror.After hanging it and while I was standing there admiring my work
> and
> the customer standing there to, one side of the hanger bracket broke. I
> caught it just in time before it crashed to the floor. The customer looked
> at me like I was an idiot. Upon further review the ring on mirror that
> hooks
> to the hanger on the wall completely separated. It was not welded just
> pressed together. I explained this to the customer but of course it
> couldn't be her problem since she bought a cheap piece of crap from China.
>
> Doubt I will ever get a call from her again.
>
> Rich
> --
> "You can lead them to LINUX
> but you can't make them THINK"
> Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586


You really can't be held responsible for failure of materials provided by
your customer. Its a shame some people are so critical as to blame you.

Its true there is a serious quality problem from goods made in china but
only part of it is the Chinese fault. Part of the blame is for the
companies who buy manufactured products with only price in mind and never
inspect the facility or send anyone in person. There is a reason these
things are so much cheaper than goods made in the west, its because we ask
for it and we got what we pay for and corners are cut in every place they
can.

China is developing quickly. Pretty soon their workers will get payed more
and the recent quality problems in the news will force a culture of change
in the manufacturing community there (it is already happening) as a result
the prices will climb and we will be complaining about the same thing from
goods made elsewhere (likely vietnam next).

If your customer wanted a quality mirror, she should have payed more for it.

We all seem to want stuff priced next to nothing but we complain when we get
what we pay for. Damn are we spoiled.

Its actually far more complicated than that. Even if you try to make
quality goods, counterfit components will sneek in and get you anyway.



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