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Cinder block or other material for chimney? Charlie S. 05-11-2008
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on May 12, 2008, 7:23 pm
> > "Charlie S." wrote
>
> > > Was given an estimate for rebuilding the chimney today. ?Seemed fairly=

> > > reasonable and most likely will go forward.
>
> > Ok, not bad to get a second estimate if you can.
>
> > > Found out a couple things.... One, that painting the chimney can trap
> > > moisture and that if I do plan to paint the chimney I should use some
> > > sort
> > > of breathable paint. ?He said latex tends to trap moisture. ?I didn't
> > > ask
> > > him, but would that mean an oil based paint. ?That seems like it would=

> > > trap moisture more so? ?Is there a particular type of paint one should=

> > > use?
>
> > Not sure but I bet he will know.
>
> > > He said the larger ones he can use on the bottom and weigh about 100
> > > lbs.
> > > The smaller one weigh about 50 lbs and he will use on top because it
> > > would
> > > weigh too much to carry on his shoulders.
>
> > > What surprised me is that he is not using some sort of pulley system t=
o
> > > carry these things up and down the staging. ?Maybe the pulley is too
> > > awkward or time consuming. ?Can't figure out why they wouldn't have a
> > > simple pulley system for this type of construction.
>
> > Could be the lay of your land makes this hard. ?Difficult to tell.
>
> > Actually, I am curious about this. ?I've never heard of a cinderblock
> > chimney. ?Just brick ones.
>
> have you considered a direct vent furnace and hot water tank? then
> abandon and remove the chimey completely if you want
>
> Never heard of them. =EF=BF=BDWould it work with a force hot water system?=
=EF=BF=BDWould I
> have to buy a new boiler?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

yes they can be used for boilers. efficeny nearly always more the 95+

depending on the cost of the chimney, and the future savings on energy
it might be worthwhile.

there are direct vent adapters for gas hot water tanks too.

how old is you heating system? i would get a free quote from at least
2 heating contractors.

new heating plant not only saves you operating expense (fuel) but adds
resale value too

Posted by Charlie S. on May 12, 2008, 8:50 pm
> > "Charlie S." wrote
>
> > > Was given an estimate for rebuilding the chimney today. ?Seemed fairly
> > > reasonable and most likely will go forward.
>
> > Ok, not bad to get a second estimate if you can.
>
> > > Found out a couple things.... One, that painting the chimney can trap
> > > moisture and that if I do plan to paint the chimney I should use some
> > > sort
> > > of breathable paint. ?He said latex tends to trap moisture. ?I didn't
> > > ask
> > > him, but would that mean an oil based paint. ?That seems like it would
> > > trap moisture more so? ?Is there a particular type of paint one should
> > > use?
>
> > Not sure but I bet he will know.
>
> > > He said the larger ones he can use on the bottom and weigh about 100
> > > lbs.
> > > The smaller one weigh about 50 lbs and he will use on top because it
> > > would
> > > weigh too much to carry on his shoulders.
>
> > > What surprised me is that he is not using some sort of pulley system
> > > to
> > > carry these things up and down the staging. ?Maybe the pulley is too
> > > awkward or time consuming. ?Can't figure out why they wouldn't have a
> > > simple pulley system for this type of construction.
>
> > Could be the lay of your land makes this hard. ?Difficult to tell.
>
> > Actually, I am curious about this. ?I've never heard of a cinderblock
> > chimney. ?Just brick ones.
>
> have you considered a direct vent furnace and hot water tank? then
> abandon and remove the chimey completely if you want
>
> Never heard of them. ?Would it work with a force hot water system? ?Would
> I
> have to buy a new boiler?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

yes they can be used for boilers. efficeny nearly always more the 95+

depending on the cost of the chimney, and the future savings on energy
it might be worthwhile.

there are direct vent adapters for gas hot water tanks too.

how old is you heating system? i would get a free quote from at least
2 heating contractors.

new heating plant not only saves you operating expense (fuel) but adds
resale value too

This may make more sense. I think the heating system is close to 40 years
old too and could use updating. Are there any safety concerns I should be
aware of?



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on May 12, 2008, 9:34 pm

> This may make more sense. =EF=BF=BDI think the heating system is close to =
40 years
> old too and could use updating. =EF=BF=BDAre there any safety concerns I s=
hould be
> aware of?

nope just call at least 3 contractors for estimates. ask friends for
referals too

with a 40 year old boiler you might save 1/3rd of your heating bill:)


exhaust will likely be a PVC pipe.

elminates standing pilot and constant venting of warm room air out
chimney.



Posted by Charlie S. on May 13, 2008, 6:14 am

> This may make more sense. ?I think the heating system is close to 40 years
> old too and could use updating. ?Are there any safety concerns I should be
> aware of?

nope just call at least 3 contractors for estimates. ask friends for
referals too

with a 40 year old boiler you might save 1/3rd of your heating bill:)


exhaust will likely be a PVC pipe.

elminates standing pilot and constant venting of warm room air out
chimney.



Thanks for the furnace and esitmate recommendations.

I have a plumber friend who generally gives me a considerable discount.
But, I will still get other estimates and ask about different brands. I

I see the Trane brand advertised a lot in the newspaper and promoted at
Home shows. If I remember correctly, they are also rather pricey. Is this
a brand to consider or should I just to HD or and see what they have?




Posted by ransley on May 13, 2008, 7:52 am
> > This may make more sense. ?I think the heating system is close to 40 yea=
rs
> > old too and could use updating. ?Are there any safety concerns I should =
be
> > aware of?
>
> nope just call at least 3 contractors for estimates. ask friends for
> referals too
>
> with a 40 year old boiler you might save 1/3rd of your heating bill:)
>
> exhaust will likely be a PVC pipe.
>
> elminates standing pilot and constant venting of warm room air out
> chimney.
>
> Thanks for the furnace and esitmate recommendations.
>
> I have a plumber friend who generally gives me a considerable discount.
> But, I will still get other estimates and ask about different brands. =A0I=

>
> I =A0see the Trane brand advertised a lot in the newspaper and promoted at=

> Home shows. =A0If I remember correctly, they are also rather pricey. =A0Is=
this
> a brand to consider or should I just to HD or and see what they have?

You said boiler, boilers heat water furnaces heat air and HD is not
the place for either but a bid and idea. 40 yr old whatever might be
70-80% efficent for a boiler and 50-80% for a furnace if it was
maintained. You can go to 95%+ condensing units and save alot and as
said, and forget about the chimney. What you have now, how it was
maintained, and if it was ever sized right will determine what you
will save. But 40 years old, I would think the life of whatever is a
risk and paying to fix a chimney not necessary for a condensing unit.
Now if you have a Steam Boiler you are stuck fixing the chimney

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