Clean burning wood - is this a pipedream? - Page 3

:> LouB wrote:

:> > Wayne Whitney wrote:

:>

:> >>> Wayne, are you there? Wayne Whitney who traffics this newsgroup

:>

:> >> Yo!  My trafficking is fairly irregular these days, it was chance
:> >> that I noticed your post.

:>

:> >>> told me that fireplaces release particulate matter which has been
:> >>> shown to shorten one life.

:>

:> >> Right, but most of those are emitted outside, so you'd be shortening
:> >> your neighbor's lives, not your own.  Of course, if your fireplace
:> >> has a drafting problem, you could get smoke and particulates inside.

:>

:> >> The best option pollution wise is to get an EPA-certified wood
:> >> burning insert in your fireplace.  They have some form of
:> >> afterburner or catalyst to burn wood more cleanly.  Plus you could
:> >> improve the efficiency of using the fireplace to heat the house, as
:> >> you should be able to arrange to use outside air for combustion and
:> >> just blow the heat into the house.  Much more efficient than a
:> >> conventional fireplace.

:>

:> >> However, the expense of the insert and/or necessary chimney
:> >> improvements or liners may be prohibitive.

:>

:> >> Cheers, Wayne

:> > Thia Old House just had a show with that.  Inserts are expensive!

:>
:> I bought my EPA certified insert with most of the stainless chimney liner used
:> for $300. Replaced the "afterburner" tubes in the top for $40 or something

:> that. There are ways.
:>
:> It heats well, and rarely has visible smoke after the initial few minutes.
:>
:> And I get way more heat from it, and less heat loss up the chimney then a
:> fireplace could ever provide.- Hide quoted text -
:>
:> - Show quoted text -

> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Harry K

>>> LouB wrote:
>>>> Wayne Whitney wrote:
>>>>>> Wayne, are you there? Wayne Whitney who traffics this newsgroup
>>>>> Yo! My trafficking is fairly irregular these days, it was chance
>>>>> that I noticed your post.
>>>>>> told me that fireplaces release particulate matter which has been
>>>>>> shown to shorten one life.
>>>>> Right, but most of those are emitted outside, so you'd be
>>>>> shortening your neighbor's lives, not your own. Of course, if
>>>>> your fireplace has a drafting problem, you could get smoke and
>>>>> particulates inside.
>>>>> The best option pollution wise is to get an EPA-certified wood
>>>>> burning insert in your fireplace. They have some form of
>>>>> afterburner or catalyst to burn wood more cleanly. Plus you could
>>>>> improve the efficiency of using the fireplace to heat the house,
>>>>> as you should be able to arrange to use outside air for
>>>>> combustion and just blow the heat into the house. Much more
>>>>> efficient than a conventional fireplace.
>>>>> However, the expense of the insert and/or necessary chimney
>>>>> improvements or liners may be prohibitive.
>>>>> Cheers, Wayne
>>>> Thia Old House just had a show with that. Inserts are expensive!
>>> I bought my EPA certified insert with most of the stainless chimney
>>> liner used for $300. Replaced the "afterburner" tubes in the top
>>> for $40 or something like that. There are ways.
>>> It heats well, and rarely has visible smoke after the initial few
>>> minutes.
>>> And I get way more heat from it, and less heat loss up the chimney
>>> then a fireplace could ever provide.- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -

>> True about the efficiency. Of course _anything_ is more effectient
>> than a fireplace. They are the most efficient wasters of wood known
>> to man...well, an open pit would be worse I suppose.
>> Harry K

> I should have snagged my sister's wood burning stove when she gave
> that away and went to strictly gas furnace heating in her house. Not
> sure I could have set it up, maybe could have vented it up the
> chimney. My fireplace is downstairs, of course, in a two story house.

:> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
:>

:>>> LouB wrote:
:>>>> Wayne Whitney wrote:
:>>>
:>>>>>> Wayne, are you there? Wayne Whitney who traffics this newsgroup
:>>>
:>>>>> Yo! My trafficking is fairly irregular these days, it was chance
:>>>>> that I noticed your post.
:>>>
:>>>>>> told me that fireplaces release particulate matter which has been
:>>>>>> shown to shorten one life.
:>>>
:>>>>> Right, but most of those are emitted outside, so you'd be
:>>>>> shortening your neighbor's lives, not your own. Of course, if
:>>>>> your fireplace has a drafting problem, you could get smoke and
:>>>>> particulates inside.
:>>>
:>>>>> The best option pollution wise is to get an EPA-certified wood
:>>>>> burning insert in your fireplace. They have some form of
:>>>>> afterburner or catalyst to burn wood more cleanly. Plus you could
:>>>>> improve the efficiency of using the fireplace to heat the house,
:>>>>> as you should be able to arrange to use outside air for
:>>>>> combustion and just blow the heat into the house. Much more
:>>>>> efficient than a conventional fireplace.
:>>>
:>>>>> However, the expense of the insert and/or necessary chimney
:>>>>> improvements or liners may be prohibitive.
:>>>
:>>>>> Cheers, Wayne
:>>>> Thia Old House just had a show with that. Inserts are expensive!
:>>>
:>>> I bought my EPA certified insert with most of the stainless chimney
:>>> liner used for $300. Replaced the "afterburner" tubes in the top
:>>> for $40 or something like that. There are ways.
:>>>
:>>> It heats well, and rarely has visible smoke after the initial few
:>>> minutes.
:>>>
:>>> And I get way more heat from it, and less heat loss up the chimney
:>>> then a fireplace could ever provide.- Hide quoted text -
:>>>
:>>> - Show quoted text -

:>>
:>> True about the efficiency. Of course _anything_ is more effectient
:>> than a fireplace. They are the most efficient wasters of wood known
:>> to man...well, an open pit would be worse I suppose.
:>>
:>> Harry K

:>
:> I should have snagged my sister's wood burning stove when she gave
:> that away and went to strictly gas furnace heating in her house. Not
:> sure I could have set it up, maybe could have vented it up the
:> chimney. My fireplace is downstairs, of course, in a two story house.

> "Bob F" wrote:

> :Legally in the US, at least in many places, any woodstove or insert that
> is
> :installed has to be an EPA certified unit. Older ones are no longer legal
> for

> I guess I'll just wear a lot of clothes this winter, drink hot broth,
> take a hot shower... I figure my chimney's clogged.