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Clogged toilet drain Stormin Mormon 09-10-2006
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 10, 2006, 9:58 pm
A friend of mine lives in a rental property. The toilet is in the
second floor bathroom. The toilet drains very, very slowly. And in
many cases needs pluging to get the waste down the drain.

As he tells me, plumber came out, and had the toilet off the base. He
(the tenant) could see that the drain line was clogged with
"crystals". I tried my closet auger, which did loosen up some dark
grey particles that came back into the bowl when I pulled out the
closet auger. Still drains slowly.

An internet search isn't being very useful. Not many web sites on
clearing crystal clogged soil pipe drains. The toilet is next to a
bath tub which does drain, probably rather slowly. And in the same
bathroom is a sink which does not drain at all.

Any ideas how to open up the toilet drain a bit? I'm thinking either a
longer snake (25 footer) through the toilet trap. Easier to do might
be pour some acid drain cleaner into the bath tub, or into the toilet
tank. Anyone had experience with that kind of clog, and what worked
for you?

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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on September 10, 2006, 10:15 pm

>
> Any ideas how to open up the toilet drain a bit? I'm thinking either a
> longer snake (25 footer) through the toilet trap. Easier to do might
> be pour some acid drain cleaner into the bath tub, or into the toilet
> tank. Anyone had experience with that kind of clog, and what worked
> for you?

The plumber removed the toilet and yet did not clean the drain?

I'd rent a power auger. Most are 50' so you can get to where the clog
really is. I have no idea what the crystals may be. Pouring acid probably
will do nothing but cause irritation when you finally clean the drain the
right way. Acid has to sit on the clogging material to work properly and it
may never reach it.

Remove the toilet and use the auger. I'd also clear the tub and sink drains
too. They may not be the culprit today, but could be soon.



Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 10, 2006, 11:51 pm


The plumber removed the toilet and yet did not clean the drain?
CY: That's the story I'm getting.

I'd rent a power auger. Most are 50' so you can get to where the clog
really is. I have no idea what the crystals may be. Pouring acid
probably
will do nothing but cause irritation when you finally clean the drain
the
right way. Acid has to sit on the clogging material to work properly
and it
may never reach it.
CY: If the drain runs slowly, the acid would run through the pipe
slowly. But, still, that might clog things the rest of the way. Wonder
what they cost to rent. Or maybe Harbor Freight has a cheap one to
purchase outright.

Remove the toilet and use the auger. I'd also clear the tub and sink
drains
too. They may not be the culprit today, but could be soon.
CY: The sink drain is total clog, the trap is clear. And the tub
drain, well, who the heck knows? The tub is probably next problem.
Pulling the toilet isn't a lot of fun, but definitely can be done.
Thanks for the advice.




Posted by Speedy Jim on September 10, 2006, 10:21 pm
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> A friend of mine lives in a rental property. The toilet is in the
> second floor bathroom. The toilet drains very, very slowly. And in
> many cases needs pluging to get the waste down the drain.
>
> As he tells me, plumber came out, and had the toilet off the base. He
> (the tenant) could see that the drain line was clogged with
> "crystals". I tried my closet auger, which did loosen up some dark
> grey particles that came back into the bowl when I pulled out the
> closet auger. Still drains slowly.
>
> An internet search isn't being very useful. Not many web sites on
> clearing crystal clogged soil pipe drains. The toilet is next to a
> bath tub which does drain, probably rather slowly. And in the same
> bathroom is a sink which does not drain at all.
>
> Any ideas how to open up the toilet drain a bit? I'm thinking either a
> longer snake (25 footer) through the toilet trap. Easier to do might
> be pour some acid drain cleaner into the bath tub, or into the toilet
> tank. Anyone had experience with that kind of clog, and what worked
> for you?
>

I would not run a big snake thru the bowl trap.
Pull the toilet up.
If it's an old lead bend in the floor, you also
are at risk of perforating it with a snake. Beware.

Have you done the "bucket test" yet? Pour a whole
bucket of water rapidly into the bowl. Will it overflow?

You could try acid flush, but there are big risks in that too.

If you could snake down the stack vent, that may help.

You probably have much better things to do... <g>

Jim

Posted by Stormin Mormon on September 10, 2006, 11:56 pm

I would not run a big snake thru the bowl trap.
CY: Too easy to scratch porelean?

Pull the toilet up.
If it's an old lead bend in the floor, you also
are at risk of perforating it with a snake. Beware.
CY: that's a thought. I don't know if there is a bend at the floor
level.

Have you done the "bucket test" yet? Pour a whole
bucket of water rapidly into the bowl. Will it overflow?
CY: The water level comes up when you flush the toilet. And drains
slowly.

You could try acid flush, but there are big risks in that too.

If you could snake down the stack vent, that may help.
CY: I'm starting to wonder. Might be time to check the other drains in
the house.

You probably have much better things to do... <g>
CY: That's for sure. Unless someone wants to pay me large ammounts of
money, this is getting a bit out of hand. Your last suggestion is the
best I've yet heard.

Jim



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