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Colored Tile Grout Lightened Red Green 08-19-2008
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Posted by Red Green on August 19, 2008, 9:54 pm


Stand up shower. 2"+ square tiles. Tiles are a mixed grey. Outside shower
also tiled on floor and half walls. Grout is a darker grey...called natural
grey from the grout charts I've looked at. This is a HUD wreck. Shower was
covered with soap scum and it's been sitting a long time...years. I
scrubbed the shit out of it with Comet spray bath/tile cleaner. Overall it
cleaned it up good. Grout is nice and dark when it's wet. Dries light. Very
pale grey. Looks like it was still loaded with soap scum. But toss a little
water on it and it immediately goes back dark like it originally was
(probably). The fact that it does this is either a sign of hope or no hope.
Just not sure which. Used a nylon brush, a greenie pad and even tried on
one inconspicuous spot a brass wire brush with the cleaner.

Except for a couple of small areas where I have to remove some tiles, fix
backing then replace the tiles, the other tiles are sound - floor and wall.

I plan on stop by a tile store tomorrow and see what they have to say for a
solution...besides regrout the whole damn thing.

Anyone have any similar experience or input?

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Posted by Miles on August 20, 2008, 6:39 am



> Stand up shower. 2"+ square tiles. Tiles are a mixed grey. Outside shower
> also tiled on floor and half walls. Grout is a darker grey...called
> natural
> grey from the grout charts I've looked at. This is a HUD wreck. Shower was
> covered with soap scum and it's been sitting a long time...years. I
> scrubbed the shit out of it with Comet spray bath/tile cleaner. Overall it
> cleaned it up good. Grout is nice and dark when it's wet. Dries light.
> Very
> pale grey. Looks like it was still loaded with soap scum. But toss a
> little
> water on it and it immediately goes back dark like it originally was
> (probably). The fact that it does this is either a sign of hope or no
> hope.
> Just not sure which. Used a nylon brush, a greenie pad and even tried on
> one inconspicuous spot a brass wire brush with the cleaner.
>
> Except for a couple of small areas where I have to remove some tiles, fix
> backing then replace the tiles, the other tiles are sound - floor and
> wall.
>
> I plan on stop by a tile store tomorrow and see what they have to say for
> a
> solution...besides regrout the whole damn thing.
>
> Anyone have any similar experience or input?


If the grout is ok except for the color, there are grout coloring products
you can buy. I used white "grout coating" to whiten my bathroom grout
(after I cleaned it). I think the brand was "Tile Gaurd". I was in the
home labrynth the other day and saw they had some grout color products for
other grout colors also, I've never used them though. The tile store will
probably give the best advice.

If it was me and the tile store said to re-grout, I would try the coloring
solution first anyway just because re-grout is so much work. Did I mention
I don't like to re-grout...



Posted by Red Green on August 20, 2008, 7:45 pm



>
>> Stand up shower. 2"+ square tiles. Tiles are a mixed grey. Outside
>> shower also tiled on floor and half walls. Grout is a darker
>> grey...called natural
>> grey from the grout charts I've looked at. This is a HUD wreck.
>> Shower was covered with soap scum and it's been sitting a long
>> time...years. I scrubbed the shit out of it with Comet spray
>> bath/tile cleaner. Overall it cleaned it up good. Grout is nice and
>> dark when it's wet. Dries light. Very
>> pale grey. Looks like it was still loaded with soap scum. But toss a
>> little
>> water on it and it immediately goes back dark like it originally was
>> (probably). The fact that it does this is either a sign of hope or no
>> hope.
>> Just not sure which. Used a nylon brush, a greenie pad and even tried
>> on one inconspicuous spot a brass wire brush with the cleaner.
>>
>> Except for a couple of small areas where I have to remove some tiles,
>> fix backing then replace the tiles, the other tiles are sound - floor
>> and wall.
>>
>> I plan on stop by a tile store tomorrow and see what they have to say
>> for a
>> solution...besides regrout the whole damn thing.
>>
>> Anyone have any similar experience or input?
>
>
> If the grout is ok except for the color, there are grout coloring
> products you can buy. I used white "grout coating" to whiten my
> bathroom grout (after I cleaned it). I think the brand was "Tile
> Gaurd". I was in the home labrynth the other day and saw they had
> some grout color products for other grout colors also, I've never used
> them though. The tile store will probably give the best advice.
>
> If it was me and the tile store said to re-grout, I would try the
> coloring solution first anyway just because re-grout is so much work.
> Did I mention I don't like to re-grout...
>
>

I used that grout coating once. It looked and held up for the 6 months or
so I saw it. But it is a coating and someday will peel, especially on
flooring), is my guess.

The tile places I called either never heard of (?!) or didn't have
stains. I ended up with Polycure (see other followup). Better actually
since it's just one product and no coloring so no matching is involved.

Thanks for the reply...

Posted by dadiOH on August 20, 2008, 9:14 am


Red Green wrote:
> Stand up shower. 2"+ square tiles. Tiles are a mixed grey. Outside
> shower also tiled on floor and half walls. Grout is a darker
> grey...called natural grey from the grout charts I've looked at. This
> is a HUD wreck. Shower was covered with soap scum and it's been
> sitting a long time...years. I scrubbed the shit out of it with Comet
> spray bath/tile cleaner. Overall it cleaned it up good. Grout is nice
> and dark when it's wet. Dries light. Very pale grey. Looks like it
> was still loaded with soap scum. But toss a little water on it and it
> immediately goes back dark like it originally was (probably). The
> fact that it does this is either a sign of hope or no hope. Just not
> sure which. Used a nylon brush, a greenie pad and even tried on one
> inconspicuous spot a brass wire brush with the cleaner.
>
> Except for a couple of small areas where I have to remove some tiles,
> fix backing then replace the tiles, the other tiles are sound - floor
> and wall.
>
> I plan on stop by a tile store tomorrow and see what they have to say
> for a solution...besides regrout the whole damn thing.
>
> Anyone have any similar experience or input?

Seal it with a non-water base sealer...something that will retain the wet
look when dry. You could even use oil poly by wiping/brushing on followed
by a wipe down with thinner to get rid of any slopped onto the tile surface
(that on the grout will have been sucked in).

Personally, I'd learn to like light grey.

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Posted by Red Green on August 20, 2008, 7:36 pm



> Red Green wrote:
>> Stand up shower. 2"+ square tiles. Tiles are a mixed grey. Outside
>> shower also tiled on floor and half walls. Grout is a darker
>> grey...called natural grey from the grout charts I've looked at. This
>> is a HUD wreck. Shower was covered with soap scum and it's been
>> sitting a long time...years. I scrubbed the shit out of it with Comet
>> spray bath/tile cleaner. Overall it cleaned it up good. Grout is nice
>> and dark when it's wet. Dries light. Very pale grey. Looks like it
>> was still loaded with soap scum. But toss a little water on it and it
>> immediately goes back dark like it originally was (probably). The
>> fact that it does this is either a sign of hope or no hope. Just not
>> sure which. Used a nylon brush, a greenie pad and even tried on one
>> inconspicuous spot a brass wire brush with the cleaner.
>>
>> Except for a couple of small areas where I have to remove some tiles,
>> fix backing then replace the tiles, the other tiles are sound - floor
>> and wall.
>>
>> I plan on stop by a tile store tomorrow and see what they have to say
>> for a solution...besides regrout the whole damn thing.
>>
>> Anyone have any similar experience or input?
>
> Seal it with a non-water base sealer...something that will retain the
> wet look when dry. You could even use oil poly by wiping/brushing on
> followed by a wipe down with thinner to get rid of any slopped onto
> the tile surface (that on the grout will have been sucked in).
>
> Personally, I'd learn to like light grey.
>

Thanks for the reply.

Well close on the oil poly dadiOH. As I said, need to do some repairs
behind the wall at the shower floor. Tiles loose and press back for like
6" up. Obvious water got in and backing crumbling. That was verified
today.

As it turned out,

>> But toss a little water on it and it
>> immediately goes back dark

turned out to be a good thing when I called the tile store this morning.
Guy said there is a "Polycure" product that penetrates way into the grout
and will restore and hold color. I had several squares in tact with grout
I took off the wall. Took it in to the tile store. Guy tried it and it
looked real good. Said to leave it on my sample for a few days/week and
see if it retains to my satisfaction. If not, I can return it. Since I
have the test tile section, I can see a cross section of the grout.
Several hours later the grout is penetrated all the way through the full
depth of the tile. You don't wanna know what this stuff costs, ugh! But
it's better than regrouting.

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