Compact Florescent lamp trick

Posted by Tony on October 19, 2009, 11:30 pm

Don Klipstein wrote:

>> wrote:

>>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>>>> yes, and "candelabra base" is the correct term. "Edison base" is the
>>>> standard light bulb that we all know and love, "Mogul base" is the
>>>> size
>>>> larger than that that you hardly ever see anymore.
>>>> nate
>>>> I know the Edison base as a "medium base". (No slight meant to
>>>> Edison) And you still see Mogal base on Mercury vapor exterior
>>>> lighting.
>>> And if you can find those giant 200 or 300 watt incandescent bulbs they
>>> have the the large base.

>> I have seen a 200W bulb in about 1978. It had a standard base. About
>> the same time I found a 1000W bulb, which did have a mogul base. I
>> gave off a lot of heat too.

>
> My experience in USA is that 200 and 300 watt 120V single-filament
> incandescents and 50-200-250 watt 3-way ones tend to have medium bases.

I could easily be wrong about the 200 300 watt bases. I'm going from
memory from ~1979 and I have a hard time remembering today! I was
probably just stunned at the size of the bulb itself. I'm sure it was
at least 10" from base to top. Or maybe the wattage was higher than I
remember?

Posted by JIMMIE on October 16, 2009, 11:12 pm

> JIMMIE wrote:

> > I replaced one bulb of 4 incandescent bulbs with a compact florescent
> > lamp and the dimmer on the circuit quit working. The lights come on
> > but full brightness no matter where the control is. Put in a regular
> > light bulb and everything is back to normal. If igure the reactive
> > load of the florescent lamp screws up the dimmer.
> > Jimmie.

> I'm no CFL expert, but I recall a thread on here where you had to buy
> special CFLs with an extra circuit in the base, for use on dimmers.
> On a related note- does anybody make CFLs for the small candelabra
> bases? (can't remember the proper term). Half my ceiling lights use
> those damn things. Had to get special ones of those, too. Ones in the
> hanging lamp over kitchen table were regular 'flame' bulbs when I moved
> in, and when one zap-failed, it fried the dimmer. The special ones have
> a backup wire to keep the spike from going back up the line, or something=

> --
> aem sends...

Yeah, they are ugly. I saw them in HD the other day. Wife says that
for as little as we use ours we can stick with incandescent.

Jimmie

Posted by Jim Elbrecht on October 17, 2009, 7:58 am

-snip-

>On a related note- does anybody make CFLs for the small candelabra
>bases? (can't remember the proper term).

-snip-

Don't CFL those-- use LEDs-
http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Candelabra-Christmas-Lighting-Replacements/dp/B000KG001I

You can spend upwards of $20 on a bulb, but it should out-perform and
outlast a couple CFLs.

Jim

Posted by Don Klipstein on October 19, 2009, 6:55 pm

>-snip-

>>On a related note- does anybody make CFLs for the small candelabra
>>bases? (can't remember the proper term).

>-snip-
>Don't CFL those-- use LEDs-
>http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Candelabra-Christmas-Lighting-
>Replacements/dp/B000KG001I
>You can spend upwards of $20 on a bulb, but it should out-perform and
>outlast a couple CFLs.

For lamps bright enough for general illumination, such as 40 watt
incandescent equivalent, I am finding most LED ones to be low on light
output and to often have an icy cold color.

This will improve over the next several years.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by JRStern on October 20, 2009, 7:17 pm

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:55:19 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
Klipstein) wrote:

> For lamps bright enough for general illumination, such as 40 watt
>incandescent equivalent, I am finding most LED ones to be low on light
>output and to often have an icy cold color.
> This will improve over the next several years.

Or possibly, not. Apparently there's a problem called "droop" when
they try to increase the intensity of LEDs - efficiency drops - and
it's already not quite as good as CFLs on the newer 1 watt and larger
LEDs. Color ... maybe. Price ... maybe a little. But it seems the
technology is currently stuck.

I just got a couple of the 23 watt and 40 watt candelabra base CFLs,
put in one 40 watt - and it was almost too bright, compared to the
incandescent it replaced. That's in a fixture. Haven't put them yet
into the chandelier, we'll see how that goes esthetically.
Fortunately we already removed the dimmer!

J.

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