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Concrete Steps - how? Wayne Boatwright 05-04-2008
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Posted by Wayne Boatwright on May 4, 2008, 3:05 am
We have a new double-wide ground set manufactured home. At present we have
"temporary" wooden steps to the front and side doors, but I would like to
install concrete steps. The total rise from ground is 14-16 inches, so I'm
guessing, as with the wooden steps, it would be 2 steps at each door, resting
on firmly packed earth.

These would essentially be "free standing" steps and, as we are in Phoenix, I
don't think we need to worry about climate changes heaving the ground.

Any plans/instructions availble for DIY? Pros and cons?

TIA

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Posted by nick hull on May 4, 2008, 5:55 am

> We have a new double-wide ground set manufactured home. At present we have
> "temporary" wooden steps to the front and side doors, but I would like to
> install concrete steps. The total rise from ground is 14-16 inches, so I'm
> guessing, as with the wooden steps, it would be 2 steps at each door, resting
> on firmly packed earth.
>
> These would essentially be "free standing" steps and, as we are in Phoenix, I
> don't think we need to worry about climate changes heaving the ground.
>
> Any plans/instructions availble for DIY? Pros and cons?
>
> TIA

Since concrete blocks are 8x8x16 it should be EZ to make then from
concrete blocks. I actually use one like that on my porch, stacked
loose and not even cemented together but I recommend you do cement them
together for stability ;)

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Posted by aemeijers on May 4, 2008, 6:26 am
nick hull wrote:
>
>> We have a new double-wide ground set manufactured home. At present we have
>> "temporary" wooden steps to the front and side doors, but I would like to
>> install concrete steps. The total rise from ground is 14-16 inches, so I'm
>> guessing, as with the wooden steps, it would be 2 steps at each door, resting
>> on firmly packed earth.
>>
>> These would essentially be "free standing" steps and, as we are in Phoenix, I
>> don't think we need to worry about climate changes heaving the ground.
>>
>> Any plans/instructions availble for DIY? Pros and cons?
>>
>> TIA
>
> Since concrete blocks are 8x8x16 it should be EZ to make then from
> concrete blocks. I actually use one like that on my porch, stacked
> loose and not even cemented together but I recommend you do cement them
> together for stability ;)
>
> Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
Before you buy the block, I'd call the local precast concrete place and
get a price on precast hollow steps, like most owners of such houses
use. Hard-packed Arizona dirt or not, they WILL eventually move on you,
and it is nice to be able to drag the steps out of the way to regrade,
versus demolishing them. Be aware code usually requires a landing at the
top, so you don't step backwards and fall down when opening door. (Yes,
that even applies to doors that open in, like when you bend over
struggling with keys.)

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Posted by Wayne Boatwright on May 4, 2008, 4:43 pm
On Sun 04 May 2008 03:26:35a, aemeijers told us...

> nick hull wrote:
>>
>>> We have a new double-wide ground set manufactured home. At present we
>>> have "temporary" wooden steps to the front and side doors, but I would
>>> like to install concrete steps. The total rise from ground is 14-16
>>> inches, so I'm guessing, as with the wooden steps, it would be 2 steps
>>> at each door, resting on firmly packed earth.
>>>
>>> These would essentially be "free standing" steps and, as we are in
>>> Phoenix, I don't think we need to worry about climate changes heaving
>>> the ground.
>>>
>>> Any plans/instructions availble for DIY? Pros and cons?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> Since concrete blocks are 8x8x16 it should be EZ to make then from
>> concrete blocks. I actually use one like that on my porch, stacked
>> loose and not even cemented together but I recommend you do cement them
>> together for stability ;)
>>
>> Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/
> Before you buy the block, I'd call the local precast concrete place and
> get a price on precast hollow steps, like most owners of such houses
> use. Hard-packed Arizona dirt or not, they WILL eventually move on you,
> and it is nice to be able to drag the steps out of the way to regrade,
> versus demolishing them. Be aware code usually requires a landing at the
> top, so you don't step backwards and fall down when opening door. (Yes,
> that even applies to doors that open in, like when you bend over
> struggling with keys.)
>
> --
> aem sends...

I like that idea! Thanks, aem.

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3wks 10hrs 20mins
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for use in hot climates.
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Posted by cshenk on May 4, 2008, 1:43 pm
"nick hull" wrote
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> Any plans/instructions availble for DIY? Pros and cons?

> Since concrete blocks are 8x8x16 it should be EZ to make then from
> concrete blocks. I actually use one like that on my porch, stacked
> loose and not even cemented together but I recommend you do cement them
> together for stability ;)

One of my neighbors has something like that at his back yard.

He did pour a base to get it all nice and even. Then he mortered the blocks
in place. To make it look nicer, he then used a decking type wood and
covered the stairs with that. Looks pretty nice actually!



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