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Condensation inside bathroom vent fan - update Bob 08-17-2006
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Posted by Bob on August 17, 2006, 12:34 pm
This is a long time coming. Back in March 2006 I opened a topic stating
that I was getting pools of condensation in my bathroom vent fan. The
fan in question was a Panasonic FV 11VQL3 110 CFM. I tried insulation
aroung the vent pipe - didn't work. Insulation around fan - didn't
work; removed the dampener (flappy thing that does not allow air to
travel back in fan) - didn't work. Finally I took the fan in the
Warranty Shop and they said the Squirrel Cage and motor had to be
replaced. I had high hopes. 3 MONTHS later (due to back order of parts)
I got the fan back installed it and.... same problem.

I called REWilliams.com and they are going to take the fan back. They
were pretty understanding and have a good policy on defective products.

So overall I wanted to say thanks to the people that responded to the
original posting "Condensation inside bathrrom vent fan" and say I am
getting a new fan from Home Depot. Hopefully this one will work. Heck I
might find out that my home has some sort of moisture/venting issue.
Funny thing about this whole experience is that I learned more about
ventalation and fans that I would really care to know.

Also as far as the Panasonic fan, I hear good things about it. Just
cause this one fan did not work for me I am not writing them off. If
there was a place that sold them for 100 bucks like REWilliams.com I
would try another one but all these fan places sell them for $175.

Regards,

Mike


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Posted by Eric in North TX on August 17, 2006, 12:56 pm

I'm curious, does your vent go through the roof or out the wall. I ask
because I installed a nice older one in our master bath from a
demolition salvage place that removes fixtures from high-end houses,
and I was careful to slope the vent tube down to the wall exit. I've
had no problems


Posted by Bob on August 17, 2006, 1:20 pm
Hi Eric,

Actually I did a horizontal run of 1.5 feet with a slight slope down
and then it curved up to a vent in the roof. The install instructions
showed that install or a wall exhaust install.

Just to give you a little more information. I actually removed the
dampener and the vent pipe and did a test of running a hot shower and
the fan venting into the attic space. After 8 minutes there was a good
size pool of condensation inside the fan. Got this idea from a few
contractors at church. This test showed that the steam from the
bathroom was not exiting the fan fast enough.

I already have the new fan and plan to install this weekend. I'll let
you know what happens.

Eric in North TX wrote:
> I'm curious, does your vent go through the roof or out the wall. I ask
> because I installed a nice older one in our master bath from a
> demolition salvage place that removes fixtures from high-end houses,
> and I was careful to slope the vent tube down to the wall exit. I've
> had no problems


Posted by EXT on August 17, 2006, 1:24 pm
I have learned the hard way to avoid metal tubing, it is cold in winter and
can produce a considerable amount of condensation. Now I only use 4" PVC
sewer pipe, it is not as thick walled as drain and vent pipe and has belled
ends for easy connecting. Since I changed I have not had any condensation
problems. Also in my climate and because it runs through the attic I make
sure that it is buried in the insulation for extra insurance, but so was the
metal pipe that gave me problems.

>
> I'm curious, does your vent go through the roof or out the wall. I ask
> because I installed a nice older one in our master bath from a
> demolition salvage place that removes fixtures from high-end houses,
> and I was careful to slope the vent tube down to the wall exit. I've
> had no problems
>



Posted by z on August 17, 2006, 3:57 pm

EXT wrote:
> I have learned the hard way to avoid metal tubing, it is cold in winter and
> can produce a considerable amount of condensation. Now I only use 4" PVC
> sewer pipe, it is not as thick walled as drain and vent pipe and has belled
> ends for easy connecting. Since I changed I have not had any condensation
> problems. Also in my climate and because it runs through the attic I make
> sure that it is buried in the insulation for extra insurance, but so was the
> metal pipe that gave me problems.

I've heard it recommended to insulate the steel tube, but you had bad
luck with that. I used the flexi-insulated duct, which is really just a
tube out of fibreglass insulation with plastic outside and foil (i
think? been a while) inside. I stretched it out pretty good, so it
wouldn't have corrugations inside to trap the flow. I honestly don't
know if it condesnses in the duct or not, but don't ask, don't smell
seems to be working in my case.

>
> >
> > I'm curious, does your vent go through the roof or out the wall. I ask
> > because I installed a nice older one in our master bath from a
> > demolition salvage place that removes fixtures from high-end houses,
> > and I was careful to slope the vent tube down to the wall exit. I've
> > had no problems
> >


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