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Conversion to gas? ? ? Ray 05-08-2008
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Posted by Lou on May 9, 2008, 7:16 am
> > You aren't suggesting that they can skip the annual service on the
> > boiler are you??? Gas may not need to have a nozzle and filter changed
> > like oil, but it certainly needs an annual service just like oil,
> > particularly for a commercial sized unit like the OP has. The cost of
> > that annual service isn't going to be any different since a nozzle and
> > filter account for about $10 worth of materials.
>
> We run two 125 HP boilers fired with gas. They are checked for efficiency
> every two months. We are, in fact, putting on controls at $45,000 to gain
> just 2% in efficiency. They get opened and cleaned once a year and the fire
> side gets a quick brushing. Takes one person about an hour
>
> We used to run a smaller (40 HP) oil fired boiler. It had to be opened
> every three months and it took two men about 4 hours to clean, vacuum,
> dispose of the soot, dispose of their now filthy coveralls, breathing
> apparatus, and then another hour to clean up the boiler room.
>
> Now you say the cost of annual service is not going to be different



When having to spend that much money, I'd start looking at Solar
energy.
Or you can keep paying out the monthly fees to the different power
companies.
Lou


Posted by ransley on May 9, 2008, 10:31 am
>
>
>
>
>
> > > You aren't suggesting that they can skip the annual service on the
> > > boiler are you??? Gas may not need to have a nozzle and filter changed=

> > > like oil, but it certainly needs an annual service just like oil,
> > > particularly for a commercial sized unit like the OP has. The cost of
> > > that annual service isn't going to be any different since a nozzle and=

> > > filter account for about $10 worth of materials.
>
> > We run two 125 HP boilers fired with gas. =A0They are checked for effici=
ency
> > every two months. =A0We are, in fact, putting on controls at $45,000 to =
gain
> > just 2% in efficiency. They get opened and cleaned once a year and the f=
ire
> > side gets a quick brushing. Takes one person about an hour
>
> > We used to run a smaller (40 HP) oil fired boiler. =A0It had to be opene=
d
> > every three months and it took two men about 4 hours to clean, vacuum,
> > dispose of the soot, dispose of their now filthy coveralls, breathing
> > apparatus, and then another hour to clean up the boiler room.
>
> > Now you say the cost of annual service is not going to be different
>
> When having to spend that much money, I'd start looking at Solar
> energy.
> Or you can keep paying out the monthly fees to the different power
> companies.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Lou- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Solar, at his size might cost 200,000.00 minimum

Posted by Lou on May 9, 2008, 1:58 pm

> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Solar, at his size might cost 200,000.00 minimum

Might, might not. You won't know if you don't find out.
Yes it probably will cost more, but what is the recovery time?
Lou


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on May 9, 2008, 11:06 pm

>>
>> We run two 125 HP boilers fired with gas. They are checked for
>> efficiency
>> every two months. We are, in fact, putting on controls at $45,000 to
>> gain
>> just 2% in efficiency. They get opened and cleaned once a year and the
>> fire
>> side gets a quick brushing. Takes one person about an hour

>
>
>
> When having to spend that much money, I'd start looking at Solar
> energy.
> Or you can keep paying out the monthly fees to the different power
> companies.
> Lou
>

The boilers have input of 5,500,000 Btu each. Tell me how many acres of
solar I'll need to convert 350 to 450 gallons of water per hour (at 60
degrees) to steam at 100 psi, especially running at night.



Posted by Lou on May 10, 2008, 7:20 am

> The boilers have input of 5,500,000 Btu each. Tell me how many acres of
> solar I'll need to convert 350 to 450 gallons of water per hour (at 60
> degrees) to steam at 100 psi, especially running at night.

I don't know and neither do you. What I'm saying is that if I had
no choice but to spend that much money on heating just one thing
I would at the very least, get a quote instead of complaining about
it.
Lou

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