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Posted by Eigenvector on September 23, 2006, 10:27 pm
Possibly already been argued ad nauseum, but what the heck is making copper
so damned expensive? I priced out Romex, now that I will be able to re-wire
my newly grounded box, and its outrageous. $146 dollars for 10/2 x 250 ft?
What's worse, 100 feet is less than half the cost, and 1000 feet is a tad
(like 10 bucks) under 4 times the cost. Don't even talk to me about 12/2 or
14/2. It ain't cheaper to get more now, it sure was 2 months ago.
Copper pipe is just as bad. What's happened in the world that has made
copper such a valuable commodity? Please don't tell me the war in Iraq,
'cause that's BS.
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on September 23, 2006, 11:07 pm
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> What's happened in the world that has made copper such a valuable
> commodity? Please don't tell me the war in Iraq, 'cause that's BS.
Have you heard about China? It is a big country overseas. They are
starting to make some goods to sell in the US. If you look around hard
enough, you may find some items made there.
Price some steel pie too.
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on September 23, 2006, 11:20 pm
yeah china sucking up copper they are becoming a major exporter and
buying raw materials.........
i think we should open the borders let companies pay sub minimum wages
to new immigrants and start manufacturing and exporting to places like
china.
go to fair tax elminate the IRS so exported goods are more competive.
At some point the US economy will collapse because we will build
nothing.......
Having no one to sell to but ourselves our economy will go bust and
social security will collapse.
Pork spending and lack of exports our economy is a house of cards and
the wind is picking up.
OPEN THE BORDERS TO EVERYONE BUT CRIMINALS AND EX[PAND THE US
ECONOMY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on September 23, 2006, 11:53 pm
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> At some point the US economy will collapse because we will build
> nothing.......
Yes, but we'll have casinos. When Electric Boat laid off thousands of
workers they were employed by the casinos in about a year. So what if the
pay cut was about $19 an hour.
By 2036 we'll have half the country collecting social security and the
other half running casinos for the old people to go to.
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Posted by David Nebenzahl on September 24, 2006, 1:50 am
hallerb@aol.com spake thus:
> yeah china sucking up copper they are becoming a major exporter and
> buying raw materials.........
That's right. I almost went to work for a metal recycling company here
in Oakland; most of their stuff gets shipped to either China or,
surprisingly, Vietnam. Big markets over there for our old ground-up cars
and fridges and stuff.
--
Napoleon won the battle of Waterloo. The German Wehrmacht won World War
II. The United States won in Vietnam, and the Soviets in Afghanistan.
The Zealots won against the Romans, and Ehud Olmert won the Second
Lebanon War.
- Uri Avnery, Israeli peace activist
(http://counterpunch.org/avnery09022006.html)
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