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Posted by Red on February 20, 2007, 3:36 pm
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> No,they don't like cold either.
> Regardless of what you do,they have self-discharge.
I think he confused cold with nicads instead of alkalines. I have
kept alkalines in the refrig for years, many times years beyond their
expiration date, and they stay fresh that way. Not the same with
nicads however.
Bob
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Posted by Cue Miller on February 21, 2007, 11:02 am
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>> No,they don't like cold either.
>> Regardless of what you do,they have self-discharge.
> I think he confused cold with nicads instead of alkalines. I have
> kept alkalines in the refrig for years, many times years beyond their
> expiration date, and they stay fresh that way. Not the same with
> nicads however.
> Bob
Alas, apparently this well-meant advice is exactly backwards. Nicads benefit
somewhat from the freezer, alkalines (as a practical matter) do not.
See this:
http://ask.yahoo.com/20011219.html
Cue
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Posted by Red on February 21, 2007, 3:02 pm
> > I think he confused cold with nicads instead of alkalines. I have
> > kept alkalines in the refrig for years, many times years beyond their
> > expiration date, and they stay fresh that way. Not the same with
> > nicads however.
> > Bob
> Alas, apparently this well-meant advice is exactly backwards. Nicads benefit
> somewhat from the freezer, alkalines (as a practical matter) do not.
> See this:
> http://ask.yahoo.com/20011219.html
I don't care what other's opinions are, I'm talking from 20+ years of
experience with LOTS of batteries. You are a fool if you believe
every article you read on the 'net. And I said refrig, not freezer.
-Red
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Posted by Cue Miller on February 22, 2007, 11:43 am
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>> > I think he confused cold with nicads instead of alkalines. I have
>> > kept alkalines in the refrig for years, many times years beyond their
>> > expiration date, and they stay fresh that way. Not the same with
>> > nicads however.
>> > Bob
>> Alas, apparently this well-meant advice is exactly backwards. Nicads
>> benefit
>> somewhat from the freezer, alkalines (as a practical matter) do not.
>> See this:
>> http://ask.yahoo.com/20011219.html
> I don't care what other's opinions are, I'm talking from 20+ years of
> experience with LOTS of batteries. You are a fool if you believe
> every article you read on the 'net. And I said refrig, not freezer.
> -Red
Don't be a bonehead, Red. Listen and you might learn something new.
Cue
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Posted by Cue Miller on February 22, 2007, 11:59 am
For those who care to learn something from alt.home.repair:
Refrigerating batteries doesn't help much
You may have heard that keeping batteries in the refrigerator will help them
keep their charge. Is that true? According to Consumer Reports, the answer
is "not really". They compared 432 Duracell AA, C, and D batteries in a
refrigerator with some at room temperature. After 2.5 years, refrigerated
AA's had kept their charge perfectly, but the unrefrigerated batteries lost
only <4% of their charge. (The unrefrigerated C's & D's lost only 10%.) So
while it's true that refrigeration helps, the savings is negligible and not
worth it, unless you live in a hot climate without air conditioning...
http://michaelbluejay.com/batteries/tips.html
Does putting batteries in the refrigerator actually help them keep their
charge or charge them better?
W.B.
Boston
A. There is no need to store your batteries in the refrigerator or freezer,
says Keith Schapp, a spokesman for Eveready Battery Co. in St. Louis.
Decades ago, when battery technology was not as good and when few houses had
air conditioning, people could extend the shelf life of batteries by keeping
them cool.
``Heat and moisture are a battery's worst enemies,'' says Schapp. In cool
refrigerators, the chemical reactions that cause a battery to lose power
take place much more slowly.
Keeping batteries in a fridge will extend the shelf life -- but only
minutely, says Schapp, ``and most batteries now have a shelf life of five
years now, so it's not necessary to keep them in the fridge.''
The ideal storage conditions are a dry, cool place. About 70 degrees is
ideal, Schapp says.
Now, if you are set on keeping your batteries in the fridge or freezer, make
sure to store them in a tightly-sealed plastic bag. The bag will keep
moisture away from the batteries. And allow them return to room temperature
for 24 hours before using them. This will prevent any problems that could be
caused by putting frozen batteries into a device that generates heat when it
is on. Extreme cold has a negligible effect on batteries, says Schapp.
(Boston Globe)
"How to Care for Your Batteries"
By Bryan Noonan
Zbattery.com
July 24, 2002
Caring for your batteries can be a confusing process. One conventional
myth circulating about battery care is that you should store your batteries
in the refrigerator to maximize your battery life. This is not entirely
true.
Caring for your batteries is actually quite simple. You can get the
most from your batteries by following these simple rules:
1.. Don't overheat. Do not attempt to charge non-rechargeable
batteries. This will overheat them and could cause a fire. Keep batteries
out of hot places, like your car. Your car can be an oven, and baking your
batteries shortens their life.
2.. Store properly. Keep your batteries in a cool, dry place. The
refrigerator is cool, but not dry. You could store your batteries in the
refrigerator and maximize their life by using a silica gel to keep the
batteries dry. This however, is an expensive and inconvenient option.
3.. Don't short the connections. Keep your batteries organized. Don't
let the ends touch the wrong thing or you'll short the battery.
4.. Don't mix and match. Use the same chemistry and brand. Never mix
rechargeable and non-rechargeable batteries.
5.. Properly dispose of used batteries. Go to www.RBRC.org to find
the recycling location nearest you.
Following these simple steps will end up saving you money and hassle
in the long run.
http://www.zbattery.com/batterycare.html
Does it help to store batteries in refrigerator?
Not really. Batteries should be stored in a dry location at room
temperature. There is a minimal benefit to storing them at a lower
temperature, but generally it is not recommended since the high humidity
levels inside of the refrigerator can cause the battery cell container to
rust. If you currently have batteries stored in a refrigerator, be sure to
allow them to warm up to room temperature before using them in your device
http://www.batteriesplus.com/t-faq2.aspx#37
Cue
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> .
>> > I think he confused cold with nicads instead of alkalines. I have
>> > kept alkalines in the refrig for years, many times years beyond their
>> > expiration date, and they stay fresh that way. Not the same with
>> > nicads however.
>> > Bob
>> Alas, apparently this well-meant advice is exactly backwards. Nicads
>> benefit
>> somewhat from the freezer, alkalines (as a practical matter) do not.
>> See this:
>> http://ask.yahoo.com/20011219.html
> I don't care what other's opinions are, I'm talking from 20+ years of
> experience with LOTS of batteries. You are a fool if you believe
> every article you read on the 'net. And I said refrig, not freezer.
> -Red
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> Regardless of what you do,they have self-discharge.