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Crack in Basement Floor Seeping Water Kevin G. 04-03-2008
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Posted by DanG on April 8, 2008, 10:05 pm
You might cut and remove a section of downspout so you can use a
flashlight or probe to see if that one is going to a pipe or some
other drainage. You may require a fresh piece of downspout to
replace the piece you remove, unless you remove a full section.

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On Apr 4, 8:18 pm, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
>
> > > I think you have ground water problem, probably from roof
> > > run-off and
> > > rain that is a bit above the basement floor. I'm assuming
> > > that the
> > > washing machine drains to a sanitary sewer, not just under
> > > the slab.
> > > The PVC pipe you describe is likely not the culprit. If you
> > > are still
> > > concerned just drop a sewer dye tablet into the washing
> > > machine drain
> > > when the machine isn't running.. If the water coming up
> > > through the
> > > floor shows color, then the drain is defective, if not it
> > > isn't the
> > > source of the water.
>
> > I think we have a winner.
>
> I'd get outside and make sure the yard is correctly pitched away
> from
> the house on all side. Why is that gutter overflowing? Where the
> downspouts end, the bare minimum is to have a long splash block
> to get
> the water away. Much better is a length of flexible pipe that
> can
> take it 6ft or so away, but that can't always be done.
>
> And get outside in a heavy rain and see what is really going on.
> You
> may find water screwing things up that you never expected. I was
> having a problem and went outside to find that the flex pipe on
> the
> downspout was not shoved on high enough. When there was a heavy
> rain, the pipe was overflowing right at the foundation. If I
> didn't
> look during a heavy rain, I'd never have realized it.

Here's a question.... i've got one downspout on the house (there
when
i bought it) that goes straight into the ground; the other four
all
end "normally" with a spout. I don't know whether that one goign
down
goes into a sewer? or some sort of dry well attempt? the sewer
idea
seems unlikely, given the city's attitude towards such things, but
the
dry well attempt seems also unlikely, since i live in a high water
table area with a heavy clay underlying it and a sump pump, and
this
downspout is attached to the house, and on the upslope side. i've
sort
of poked down around it with a trowel (it's in the middle of a
couple
of evergreens with roots and such) but not discovered anything, is
there any clever way to figure it out without excavating? is it
maybe
not worth the effort, and just chop it off and install a spout? or
maybe even just leave it alone...?



Posted by Buck Turgidson on April 3, 2008, 5:50 pm
> I have just discovered that my basement floor has a 3-foot long crack
> in it. This crack has begun to seep water through it slowly. The
> crack "starts" from a PVC pipe that is in a vertical direction which
> is used as my washing machine's drain. On the other side of the crack
> (but not directly where the crack ends), there is a drain that goes
> under my basement floor.
>
> Is it possible that there is a pipe underneath my basement floor that
> connects the drain to this PVC pipe that may have burst? If there is
> a pipe and it has burst, would applying that basement floor/wall
> crack patch stuff (and then sealant) fix the problem? Or, should I
> use a jackhammer to get to that pipe and replace the pipe and then re-
> apply concrete to the area? Any other suggestions?
>


what's the purpose of the PVC next to the crack? Is it a drain? If so, I
doubt that there'd be enough volume going through in to make that much
moisture.



Posted by Kevin G. on April 3, 2008, 6:13 pm
> > I have just discovered that my basement floor has a 3-foot long crack
> > in it. This crack has begun to seep water through it slowly. The
> > crack "starts" from a PVC pipe that is in a vertical direction which
> > is used as my washing machine's drain. On the other side of the crack
> > (but not directly where the crack ends), there is a drain that goes
> > under my basement floor.
>
> > Is it possible that there is a pipe underneath my basement floor that
> > connects the drain to this PVC pipe that may have burst? If there is
> > a pipe and it has burst, would applying that basement floor/wall
> > crack patch stuff (and then sealant) fix the problem? Or, should I
> > use a jackhammer to get to that pipe and replace the pipe and then re-
> > apply concrete to the area? Any other suggestions?
>
> what's the purpose of the PVC next to the crack? Is it a drain? If so, I
> doubt that there'd be enough volume going through in to make that much
> moisture.

Yes, the PVC is a drain for the washing machine. But, as mentioned in
my first post, there's a floor drain about 3-4 feet away from this PVC
pipe at the "other end" of the crack.

One other thing to note, when the washing machine is emptying water
out during the spin cycle (just prior to the rinse cycle), soap suds
bubble up through the floor drain. This leads me to believe that the
drain and the PVC pipe that you're seeing in the picture are connected.

Posted by z on April 4, 2008, 1:13 pm
>
>
>
>
>
> > > I have just discovered that my basement floor has a 3-foot long crack
> > > in it. =A0This crack has begun to seep water through it slowly. The
> > > crack "starts" from a PVC pipe that is in a vertical direction which
> > > is used as my washing machine's drain. =A0On the other side of the cra=
ck
> > > (but not directly where the crack ends), there is a drain that goes
> > > under my basement floor.
>
> > > Is it possible that there is a pipe underneath my basement floor that
> > > connects the drain to this PVC pipe that may have burst? =A0If there i=
s
> > > a pipe and it has burst, =A0would applying that basement floor/wall
> > > crack patch stuff (and then sealant) fix the problem? =A0Or, should I
> > > use a jackhammer to get to that pipe and replace the pipe and then re-=

> > > apply concrete to the area? =A0Any other suggestions?
>
> > what's the purpose of the PVC next to the crack? =A0Is it a drain? =A0If=
so, I
> > doubt that there'd be enough volume going through in to make that much
> > moisture.
>
> Yes, the PVC is a drain for the washing machine. =A0But, as mentioned in
> my first post, there's a floor drain about 3-4 feet away from this PVC
> pipe at the "other end" of the crack.
>
> One other thing to note, when the washing machine is emptying water
> out during the spin cycle (just prior to the rinse cycle), soap suds
> bubble up through the floor drain. =A0This leads me to believe that the
> drain and the PVC pipe that you're seeing in the picture are connected.- H=
ide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

hmmm... well, if there's no soap bubbling up through the floor, that's
a good sign. do the dye trick like the guy said. also, does water come
up from the crack when the washing machine hasn't been run? it seems
fairly obvious that there isn't any pressure in the pipe when the
machine isn't actually draining, so that would be the only time it
would leak, if it leaks.

Posted by Nate Nagel on April 3, 2008, 8:18 pm
Kevin G. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just discovered that my basement floor has a 3-foot long crack
> in it. This crack has begun to seep water through it slowly. The
> crack "starts" from a PVC pipe that is in a vertical direction which
> is used as my washing machine's drain. On the other side of the crack
> (but not directly where the crack ends), there is a drain that goes
> under my basement floor.
>
> Is it possible that there is a pipe underneath my basement floor that
> connects the drain to this PVC pipe that may have burst? If there is
> a pipe and it has burst, would applying that basement floor/wall
> crack patch stuff (and then sealant) fix the problem? Or, should I
> use a jackhammer to get to that pipe and replace the pipe and then re-
> apply concrete to the area? Any other suggestions?
>
> I can send pictures to anyone who wants to see the damage.
>
> Your help is appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin

I'd have the pipe scoped to determine whether it is actually a pipe
issue or simply a high water table. the fix will depend on which
problem you have.

nate

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