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Craftsman riding lawnmower odd problem stryped 05-15-2006
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Posted by spaco on May 15, 2006, 7:52 pm
Since it's a Kohler, it probably has an internal governor which is not
likely to get full of grass clippings. Later posts may be more to the
point for you, but I would be surprised if the carb's throttle shaft of
bearing surface wears that badly in only 5 years unless youb put Lots of
hours on it.

Pete Stanaitis
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stryped wrote:
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> Can you tell me where the govenor is on this engine and what it looks
> like? This is a Koler engine.
> spaco wrote:
>
>>I agree that the problem is most likely with the governor. There may be
>>a build up of crud somewhere in the system that makes the governor bind.
>> this would be particularly true if the governor uses a vane in the
>>flywheel's air stream to sense the engine speed.
>>
>>Pete Stanaitis
>>------------------
>>
>>Martin wrote:
>>
>>>stryped wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>x-no-archive:yes
>>>>
>>>>I have a 5 or so year old craftsman riding lawn mower 48 inch cut. It
>>>>seems to run fine while mowing if th eblades are engaged. However, when
>>>>I turn the blades off after mowing for awhile, the engine surges like
>>>>someone is making the throttle go up and down. It "jerks" while you are
>>>>tryign to drive it. I can remember if it still surges when in neutral
>>>>or not but it is bothersome when you have to drive somewhere with the
>>>>blades off.
>>>>
>>>>Any advice on what is the problem and how I address it?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>It sounds as if the governor may be "hunting" under light load due to
>>>slight misadjustment. I'd check to see if the spring or other parts of
>>>the linkage may be damaged or binding. Engaging the blades could
>>>smooth this out by either adding load, which would possibly cause the
>>>throttle governor to move to a less-binding position, or by their
>>>flywheel effect.
>>>
>>>I guess it's also possible that the low-speed carburetion circuit may
>>>have a problem, causing the engine to govern poorly at nearly-closed
>>>throttle settings.
>>>
>>>Martin
>>>
>
>

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Posted by on May 15, 2006, 12:19 pm
have you ever changed the air filter?

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Posted by on May 15, 2006, 12:20 pm
I have had several of that type mower and all suffer from the problem
you describe. The problem is the throttle shaft wears the pot metal
carburetor housing until there is quite an air leak around the shaft.

The excess air makes the engine run lean and slow down until the
governor recognizes the slow-down and gives it a shot of fuel. The
whole cycle begins again.

Only solution is a new carb. Not worth the effort to try to fix it.
Usually there are other pieces getting ready to fail, such as the
spring on the governor rod or the throttle arm falling off the throttle
shaft!

Paul


Posted by Stubby on May 15, 2006, 3:30 pm
stryped wrote:
> x-no-archive:yes
>
> I have a 5 or so year old craftsman riding lawn mower 48 inch cut. It
> seems to run fine while mowing if th eblades are engaged. However, when
> I turn the blades off after mowing for awhile, the engine surges like
> someone is making the throttle go up and down. It "jerks" while you are
> tryign to drive it. I can remember if it still surges when in neutral
> or not but it is bothersome when you have to drive somewhere with the
> blades off.
>
> Any advice on what is the problem and how I address it?

I'll bet you run it dry when you put it up for the winter. That lets
the diaphragm in the carburetor get hard. It can't flex right and the
accelerator pump won't work right. Get a rebuild kit, throw away all
the replacement valves and nozzles, just install the gasket/diaphragm.
It takes about a half hour.

Posted by stryped on May 15, 2006, 4:20 pm
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I dont let it sit dry.
By the way, I always leave the throttle in the fast position and it
still does it even if I move the throttle to slow.
Stubby wrote:
> stryped wrote:
> > x-no-archive:yes
> >
> > I have a 5 or so year old craftsman riding lawn mower 48 inch cut. It
> > seems to run fine while mowing if th eblades are engaged. However, when
> > I turn the blades off after mowing for awhile, the engine surges like
> > someone is making the throttle go up and down. It "jerks" while you are
> > tryign to drive it. I can remember if it still surges when in neutral
> > or not but it is bothersome when you have to drive somewhere with the
> > blades off.
> >
> > Any advice on what is the problem and how I address it?
>
> I'll bet you run it dry when you put it up for the winter. That lets
> the diaphragm in the carburetor get hard. It can't flex right and the
> accelerator pump won't work right. Get a rebuild kit, throw away all
> the replacement valves and nozzles, just install the gasket/diaphragm.
> It takes about a half hour.


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