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Crown Molding to Wall Cabinets.... HUH????? infiniteMPG 08-10-2008
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Posted by infiniteMPG on August 10, 2008, 11:06 am


We just got our new Cardell cabinets and the 3" crown molding. The
upper part of the wall cabinets doesn't have any extra material to
fasten the molding to and the small lip of the crown molding doesn't
have anything we can see to rest upon. The crown molding does not
appear to have room to sit on the face of the cabinet boldy as the
doors are full overlay and there's barely any face showing at the top
face of the cabinet body. The top is flush.

Is there some secret to attaching crown molding to the top of the wall
cabinets that we're missing? The crown molding is going to sit
against the ceiling so anything that would require accessing the top
of the cabinets after installing can't happen.

We were thinking of fastening a small strip like 1x2 down the top of
the cabinets and then fasteneing the crown molding to that but it
seems there should be some proper way of doing this.

Any help?

Posted by Joe on August 10, 2008, 11:30 am


> We just got our new Cardell cabinets and the 3" crown molding. =A0The
> upper part of the wall cabinets doesn't have any extra material to
> fasten the molding to and the small lip of the crown molding doesn't
> have anything we can see to rest upon. =A0The crown molding does not
> appear to have room to sit on the face of the cabinet boldy as the
> doors are full overlay and there's barely any face showing at the top
> face of the cabinet body. =A0The top is flush.
>
> Is there some secret to attaching crown molding to the top of the wall
> cabinets that we're missing? =A0The crown molding is going to sit
> against the ceiling so anything that would require accessing the top
> of the cabinets after installing can't happen.
>
> We were thinking of fastening a small strip like 1x2 down the top of
> the cabinets and then fasteneing the crown molding to that but it
> seems there should be some proper way of doing this.
>
> Any help?

Truss movement or uplift is a common problem with ceilings these days,
so crown molding is installed snug to the walls and fastened to the
ceiling. That may apply in this case, Worth checking that possibility
for a tidy installation.

Joe

Posted by SteveBell on August 10, 2008, 1:19 pm


infiniteMPG wrote:

> We just got our new Cardell cabinets and the 3" crown molding. The
> upper part of the wall cabinets doesn't have any extra material to
> fasten the molding to and the small lip of the crown molding doesn't
> have anything we can see to rest upon. The crown molding does not
> appear to have room to sit on the face of the cabinet boldy as the
> doors are full overlay and there's barely any face showing at the top
> face of the cabinet body. The top is flush.
>
> Is there some secret to attaching crown molding to the top of the wall
> cabinets that we're missing? The crown molding is going to sit
> against the ceiling so anything that would require accessing the top
> of the cabinets after installing can't happen.
>
> We were thinking of fastening a small strip like 1x2 down the top of
> the cabinets and then fasteneing the crown molding to that but it
> seems there should be some proper way of doing this.

I hear you saying that you have European-style cabinets where the door
completely covers the upper rail, leaving no place to nail the crown
molding. Please correct me if this is wrong.

The proper way to install the crown molding is any way that works. Your
proposal to install blocking should work.

I'm a big fan of try before you buy:
* Cut a short piece of crown to play with.
* Put the blocking in place temporarily with tape.
* Hold your piece of crown against the blocking and ceiling to verify
that it looks the way you want. Check against the ceiling, against the
wall, and at the front edge of the cabinets.
* Move the blocking in and out, up and down, until everything looks
the way you want.
* Permanently attach the blocking. This may be difficult. Sometimes
it's easier to take the cabinets down. Construction adhesive and clamps
may be your only option.

Buy the straightest blocking and crown you can find, otherwise you have
those problems in addition to all your others. Put the finish on the
crown before you install it.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

Posted by infiniteMPG on August 10, 2008, 5:07 pm


> I hear you saying that you have European-style cabinets where the door
completely covers the upper rail, leaving no place to nail the crown molding.
Please correct me if this is wrong.

The cabinet doors cover the face of the cabinets side-to-side
completely, but at the top and bottom there is 1/4" of the face
showing. Not a complete coverage but enough to make it near
impossible to attach to. In fact seeing you're in TX, the cabinet
company is Cardell, also in Texas.

> The proper way to install the crown molding is any way that works. Your
proposal to install blocking should work.

Kind of getting that feeling about a lot of parts of this project :O)

> Buy the straightest blocking and crown you can find, otherwise you have those
problems in addition to all your others. Put the finish on the crown before you
install it.

Sounds like a good plan, the molding came with the cabinets so they
were very good material and also pre-stained to match the cabinets.

Thanks for your help!

Posted by David Starr on August 10, 2008, 5:28 pm


wrote:


>Is there some secret to attaching crown molding to the top of the wall
>cabinets that we're missing? The crown molding is going to sit
>against the ceiling so anything that would require accessing the top
>of the cabinets after installing can't happen.
>
>We were thinking of fastening a small strip like 1x2 down the top of
>the cabinets and then fasteneing the crown molding to that but it
>seems there should be some proper way of doing this.
>
>Any help?

I glued a 1x1 strip to the back of the crown molding - made a jig to hold
everything in position while the glue dried, then glued the strip to the top of
the cabinets. Worked perfectly. I glued the strip 1/4" up from the bottom of
the molding.
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