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Custom storm door Anthona 12-10-2006
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Posted by Evo on December 11, 2006, 10:09 am


Anthona wrote:

> I need to replace my custom storm door. It was fitted at that time (
> before i bought the house ) with extra enclosures. I've shopped around
> and most places are asking way out of hand for a simple storm door,
> even if its custom made. The last quote I got was around $647.I suspect
> that price does not include labor. Is it possible to get a door that
> would fit that very enclosure? The door itself measures 32 1/2 wide to
> 82" in height. lowes and HD are out of the question, they insist that
> they have to go by the regular measure of that opening and if necessary
> add padded enclosures.

Why not just trim out the door to the standard 80X32 with trim strips? Then
go to any Box Store and buy your standard storm door to fit that opening.
Simple Stupid even if you live in NYC.

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Posted by Anthona on December 11, 2006, 3:25 pm



Evo wrote:
> Anthona wrote:
>
> > I need to replace my custom storm door. It was fitted at that time (
> > before i bought the house ) with extra enclosures. I've shopped around
> > and most places are asking way out of hand for a simple storm door,
> > even if its custom made. The last quote I got was around $647.I suspect
> > that price does not include labor. Is it possible to get a door that
> > would fit that very enclosure? The door itself measures 32 1/2 wide to
> > 82" in height. lowes and HD are out of the question, they insist that
> > they have to go by the regular measure of that opening and if necessary
> > add padded enclosures.
>
> Why not just trim out the door to the standard 80X32 with trim strips? Then
> go to any Box Store and buy your standard storm door to fit that opening.
> Simple Stupid even if you live in NYC.
>
> RV
>
> --
> Well some of us stupid ones write here so we can get so called 'experts' like
u the opportunity to criticize us. What is a Box store and where does one get
trim strips? I hope this is not an embarrassing question to one with such
expertise. i thought this was a forum where one can ask questions.



Posted by Colbyt on December 11, 2006, 4:33 pm



>> Well some of us stupid ones write here so we can get so called 'experts'
>> like u the opportunity to criticize us. What is a Box store and where
>> does one get trim strips? I hope this is not an embarrassing question to
>> one with such expertise. i thought this was a forum where one can ask
>> questions.
>

A box store and a BORG are basically slam terms applied to the big old
retail giants that cherry pick the top selling merchandise to sell while not
stocking the harder to find stuff that we all need from time to time.

You really won't know what you need to build out the trim on the door until
you take the old one down and measure the existing opening. Then you have
to fire the cpu in your head and go to shopping. In most cases you can find
something that will work well enough and only needs to be cut to the proper
length. I am assuming you have minimal tools here. Even if you have to pay
a woodworking shop to rip and cut some stuff for you, it will be lot less
than the $500 difference in the price of the door.

The depth/thickness from outside to inside of the surface you need to build
out can vary from 3/4" to 1 1/4" depending on what the opening was trimmed
with. The actual thickness you need to build out can only be computed by
subtracting the standard 32" or 36" from the measured size. You actually
have a little margin because most doors sold today will work in 1/4" less
width than the stated size.

To reduce the height where brick mold is the trim I have used a single piece
to reduce by 2" and or double piece to reduce by 4". Depending on how you
mount it you can get a decorative effect that looks quite nice. For 3/4"
just use a 1x ripped to fit.and add a small piece of finish trim over the
seam.

To reduce the width of the opening I have used screen molding, lattice
strips, blind stop, and custom made pieces. The trim section is your
shopping area. Your maximum width reduction is about 5/8" on each side or
the new flange won't cover your seam

Colbyt




Posted by Anthona on December 14, 2006, 6:46 pm



Colbyt wrote:
> >> Well some of us stupid ones write here so we can get so called 'experts'
> >> like u the opportunity to criticize us. What is a Box store and where
> >> does one get trim strips? I hope this is not an embarrassing question to
> >> one with such expertise. i thought this was a forum where one can ask
> >> questions.
> >
>
> A box store and a BORG are basically slam terms applied to the big old
> retail giants that cherry pick the top selling merchandise to sell while not
> stocking the harder to find stuff that we all need from time to time.
>
> You really won't know what you need to build out the trim on the door until
> you take the old one down and measure the existing opening. Then you have
> to fire the cpu in your head and go to shopping. In most cases you can find
> something that will work well enough and only needs to be cut to the proper
> length. I am assuming you have minimal tools here. Even if you have to pay
> a woodworking shop to rip and cut some stuff for you, it will be lot less
> than the $500 difference in the price of the door.
>
> The depth/thickness from outside to inside of the surface you need to build
> out can vary from 3/4" to 1 1/4" depending on what the opening was trimmed
> with. The actual thickness you need to build out can only be computed by
> subtracting the standard 32" or 36" from the measured size. You actually
> have a little margin because most doors sold today will work in 1/4" less
> width than the stated size.
>
> To reduce the height where brick mold is the trim I have used a single piece
> to reduce by 2" and or double piece to reduce by 4". Depending on how you
> mount it you can get a decorative effect that looks quite nice. For 3/4"
> just use a 1x ripped to fit.and add a small piece of finish trim over the
> seam.
>
> To reduce the width of the opening I have used screen molding, lattice
> strips, blind stop, and custom made pieces. The trim section is your
> shopping area. Your maximum width reduction is about 5/8" on each side or
> the new flange won't cover your seam
>
> Colbyt


Used to be, expanders were used to make the size adjustments. It has
been
years since I've been involved with doors though. One option is to add
a
trim strip to bring the opening down so a standard 80" door will fit.
Check
for a local manufacturer also. We had a bunch of them when I lived in
Philadelphia. They would buy the extrusions and custom make any size
you
needed with only a small up charge. >>>

I found this news to me and checked it out at home depot...Yes, they do
have expanders where one can enlarge the height of the door from 80" to
possibley a 1 and a 1/2 at the most. I went to check my door again at
home and sure enough there was an expander at the bottom.. So I
probably could buy the regular 80'' door with the expander and make up
some of the difference.


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