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Cut Joist towelfury 06-21-2006
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Posted by Abe on June 21, 2006, 9:14 pm
>>> Look more carefully. It's just an optical illusion. What
>>> you're seeing
>>> behind the joist is the subfloor, not another joist.

>> Now that you point it out, I certainly agree. The
>> perspective fooled me.
>> Something needs to be done...
>I disagree with it being sub-floor. The sub-floor is OSB.
>The "joist" has a side and a bottom. You can see what
>appears to be OSB in the gap on the right of the vertical
>pipe. The uncut joist is probably supporting a wall behind
>the toilet flange that is visible on the pipe. Sister the
>cut joist to assure a solid toilet installation.
You know what, you're quite right. It also appears to be a 4X rather
than a 2X as the interrupted joist is. I'd say whoever put the pipe in
must have installed the extra joist, and oversized it just to be sure.
If that's the case, I wouldn't worry about it.




Posted by Jeff Wisnia on June 22, 2006, 11:06 am
Abe wrote:
>>>>Look more carefully. It's just an optical illusion. What
>>>>you're seeing
>>>>behind the joist is the subfloor, not another joist.
>
>
>>>Now that you point it out, I certainly agree. The
>>>perspective fooled me.
>>>Something needs to be done...
>>
>>I disagree with it being sub-floor. The sub-floor is OSB.
>>The "joist" has a side and a bottom. You can see what
>>appears to be OSB in the gap on the right of the vertical
>>pipe. The uncut joist is probably supporting a wall behind
>>the toilet flange that is visible on the pipe. Sister the
>>cut joist to assure a solid toilet installation.
>
> You know what, you're quite right. It also appears to be a 4X rather
> than a 2X as the interrupted joist is. I'd say whoever put the pipe in
> must have installed the extra joist, and oversized it just to be sure.
> If that's the case, I wouldn't worry about it.
>
>
>

Maybe the OP will be kind enough to give us another photo from a better
angle?

How about it towelfury?

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

Posted by Osurac on June 22, 2006, 10:01 pm
Thanks everyone for your input, unfortunately that is the only picture
I have at the time. I may have another one in a week or so, I just
wanted to make sure it was a major issue that I should get fixed.

Jeff Wisnia wrote:
> Abe wrote:
> >>>>Look more carefully. It's just an optical illusion. What
> >>>>you're seeing
> >>>>behind the joist is the subfloor, not another joist.
> >
> >
> >>>Now that you point it out, I certainly agree. The
> >>>perspective fooled me.
> >>>Something needs to be done...
> >>
> >>I disagree with it being sub-floor. The sub-floor is OSB.
> >>The "joist" has a side and a bottom. You can see what
> >>appears to be OSB in the gap on the right of the vertical
> >>pipe. The uncut joist is probably supporting a wall behind
> >>the toilet flange that is visible on the pipe. Sister the
> >>cut joist to assure a solid toilet installation.
> >
> > You know what, you're quite right. It also appears to be a 4X rather
> > than a 2X as the interrupted joist is. I'd say whoever put the pipe in
> > must have installed the extra joist, and oversized it just to be sure.
> > If that's the case, I wouldn't worry about it.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Maybe the OP will be kind enough to give us another photo from a better
> angle?
>
> How about it towelfury?
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeffry Wisnia
> (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
> "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."


Posted by Chris Lewis on July 5, 2006, 9:48 am
> Thanks everyone for your input, unfortunately that is the only picture
> I have at the time. I may have another one in a week or so, I just
> wanted to make sure it was a major issue that I should get fixed.

Or, just look at the picture yourself, and let us know whether
there's another joist behind the cut one, and approximately
how far away from the cut one it is.

To me it looks like another joist with a bit of pressure treated
lumber on the bottom. Eg: a sill plate.

Even if it is another joist (and probably not absolutely neccessary
structurally), I really don't like arbitrarily severed joists, and
it may give you problems with the toilet later on due to flex.

If it's what I think it is, a 6' or more piece of joist laminated on the
backside (I _assume_ the pipe won't interfere on that side), with
proper nail cleating would do the trick. If the cut joist has
dipped, you'll want to push it up a bit to get it back in line
before cleating in the sister.
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by Jim McLaughlin on June 21, 2006, 7:34 pm

> I would some comments on the following joist situation:
>
> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/17101354562.jpg&s=f5
>
> Thanks
>

After you shoot the plumber and the buildng inspector.....

Bear in mind I've been known to wear a belt and suspenders together, so this
may be overkill, but...

I'd use 4 feet of 2" X "whatever" on each side of the cut on both sides of
the damaged joist to "shim" out the joust, so that I culd properly "sister"
the joist without the "sisters" themselves hitting the pipe. . I'd use a
pnematic palm nailer to nail those in.

Then I'd put an 8' long sister on each side, tack nail that in to the
"shims" with th palm nailer, and then seriously bolt the whole sebang
together through all five layers of the 2" x whatever material. I'd use a
lot of bolts.

--
Jim McLaughlin

Reply address is deliberately munged.
If you really need to reply directly, try:
jimdotmclaughlinatcomcastdotcom

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