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Posted by Mike Dobony on July 16, 2005, 11:14 am
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> tbasc@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > George,
> > I generally agree with you.
> > However, I hear from some some researchers that is is often the case
> > that there are connecting paths up through the house structure.
> > YFH might want to look at the Building Science Corporation web site.
> > TB
> True, with balloon framing used in old houses. I
> would worry more about fires than Radon with such
> construction.
> Not true with modern house construction.
Holes for water vent, gas furnace and water heater chimneys go from basement
to roof.
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Posted by meirman on July 17, 2005, 3:01 am
In alt.hvac on Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:14:42 -0500 "Mike Dobony"
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>> tbasc@bellsouth.net wrote:
>> > George,
>> > I generally agree with you.
>> > However, I hear from some some researchers that is is often the case
>> > that there are connecting paths up through the house structure.
>> > YFH might want to look at the Building Science Corporation web site.
>> > TB
>> True, with balloon framing used in old houses. I
>> would worry more about fires than Radon with such
>> construction.
>> Not true with modern house construction.
>Holes for water vent, gas furnace and water heater chimneys go from basement
>to roof.
Yeah, in another thread I mentioned my forced air heating duct which
goes up my stack to the second. The oil furnace chimney is either in
the stack too or right next to it.
At the level of the first-floor ceiling or second floor floor, there
is a piece of plywood covering the stack, with holes for whatever goes
up there. I don't recall how well fitted the holes were to the duct
etc. Do all houses have the stack closed like this?
When I wanted to run another electric line, and phone lines and
burglar alarm lines, even with my 6 foot drill bit and a 12 inch
extension, it was hard to drill the hole.
Still, I don't think attic ventilation draws from the basement when
their are easier places to draw from, and even if there is radon in
the area, that doesn't mean it gets into the basement. There has to
be a crack in the foundation and in the right place.
Meirman
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or not you are posting the same letter.
Change domain to erols.com, if necessary.
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Posted by TPutmann on July 16, 2005, 1:38 am
Radon - The biggest scam of the 20th century. They say "you can't see
it, but it will kill you". The reason you cant see it, is because
there is no such thing as radon, except in the minds of scammers that
want your money to do alot of useless crap to your house at their
gain. However, if you believe in radon, then you must also believe in
the tooth fairy. Well, I personally know the tooth fairy, and if you
send me $1000, I will send you her autographed photo, and if you
include one of your gold capped teeth along with your $1000 check, she
will also send you a silver dollar with a picture of a naked face on
it.
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:27:51 -0400, "Yeung Fun Ho"
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>> Can anyone recommend any cheapo DIY ideas on how to exhaust heat from
>> an attic in a house?
>unlike some of the folks here, who are forgetting a very important point,
>let me remind you of something:
>many places in the USA have high RADON levels
>(RADON, a colorless, odorless gas, is the 2nd leading cause of lung cancer,
>after smoking)
>many of the solutions that are typically presented in this group involve
>exhausting attic heat via a fan, turbine, etc.
>most of these are "negative pressure" solutions, i.e. they suck air out in
>order to exhaust the unwanted heat
>this will cause RADON to be sucked IN to your home from the ground
>I suggest the following two ideas which are at least as effective and will
>not introduce any RADON:
>suggestions for hot attics:
>1. a positive pressure solution (i.e. fan blows into attic and out a vent,
>rather than sucking air out and RADON in)
>2. even better is a white roof, studies have shown that a white colored roof
>is 7 times as efficient for eliminating attic heat than any vent, fan, or
>turbine system
>YFH
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Posted by Mike Dobony on July 16, 2005, 11:20 am
> Radon - The biggest scam of the 20th century. They say "you can't see
> it, but it will kill you". The reason you cant see it, is because
> there is no such thing as radon, except in the minds of scammers that
> want your money to do alot of useless crap to your house at their
> gain. However, if you believe in radon, then you must also believe in
> the tooth fairy. Well, I personally know the tooth fairy, and if you
> send me $1000, I will send you her autographed photo, and if you
> include one of your gold capped teeth along with your $1000 check, she
> will also send you a silver dollar with a picture of a naked face on
> it.
2nd biggest scam. #1 scan? FREON!!!!!! There has never been a SCIENTIFIC
study tying freon to ozone depletion. There has never been any scientific
study that conclusively shows ANY ozone depletion. The newspapers have
CLAIMED a connection, but never gave any scientific studies which proved or
even indicated it. What they showed was guesses that it MIGHT deplete the
ozone.
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Posted by Vicki Szaszvari on July 16, 2005, 6:39 pm
Mike Dobony wrote:
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> 2nd biggest scam. #1 scan? FREON!!!!!! There has never been a SCIENTIFIC
> study tying freon to ozone depletion. There has never been any scientific
> study that conclusively shows ANY ozone depletion. The newspapers have
> CLAIMED a connection, but never gave any scientific studies which proved or
> even indicated it. What they showed was guesses that it MIGHT deplete the
> ozone.
Wrong, Freon breath. You need to read something published in the past
decade, or get out of the house more often. You probably still believe
the whole thing was fabricated by DuPont because of their R-12 patent
(which, incidentally, ran out more than 50 years ago.)
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> > George,
> > I generally agree with you.
> > However, I hear from some some researchers that is is often the case
> > that there are connecting paths up through the house structure.
> > YFH might want to look at the Building Science Corporation web site.
> > TB
> True, with balloon framing used in old houses. I
> would worry more about fires than Radon with such
> construction.
> Not true with modern house construction.