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DIY Electric Service from Power Company mpdsville1@yahoo.com 09-01-2007
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Posted by mpdsville1@yahoo.com on September 1, 2007, 3:19 am
My Bro-in-law just bought a 100x500' parcel of land that has
only a well and a 10x15' garage currently. He's going to build
on the footprint of the home that was ripped down several years ago.

He mentioned to me that he _HAS_ to blow at leat $1000 for an
electrician to run electric service to the garage (so theres juice
onsite while he's building the home).

My general understanding is that he/we should be able to mount a
service entry (box that the power company's meter goes in) and
a breaker panel on a pole or on the garage, and call in the power
company to connect service. A neighbor of mine (since moved)
had "power on a pole" while he built his place.

I/We have no problem with the cost of an electricans services, but
prefer to spend that $ on an electrician wiring the house, not on
a
simple 1-drop, 1-panel, 2-outlet, temporary install.

The wiring/job is simple, and let's assume our work will be within
builing-code/spec/best-practices.

Why Shouldn't we be able to DIY it? What are the roadblocks?


Thanks


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Posted by Lou on September 1, 2007, 4:15 am
mpdsville1@yahoo.com wrote:
> My Bro-in-law just bought a 100x500' parcel of land that has
> only a well and a 10x15' garage currently. He's going to build
> on the footprint of the home that was ripped down several years ago.
>
> He mentioned to me that he _HAS_ to blow at leat $1000 for an
> electrician to run electric service to the garage (so theres juice
> onsite while he's building the home).
>
> My general understanding is that he/we should be able to mount a
> service entry (box that the power company's meter goes in) and
> a breaker panel on a pole or on the garage, and call in the power
> company to connect service. A neighbor of mine (since moved)
> had "power on a pole" while he built his place.
>
> I/We have no problem with the cost of an electricans services, but
> prefer to spend that $ on an electrician wiring the house, not on
> a
> simple 1-drop, 1-panel, 2-outlet, temporary install.
>
> The wiring/job is simple, and let's assume our work will be within
> builing-code/spec/best-practices.
>
> Why Shouldn't we be able to DIY it? What are the roadblocks?
>
>
> Thanks
>

The law(s) / codes of the area he lives in???

Lou

Posted by mpdsville1@yahoo.com on September 1, 2007, 4:33 am
> mpdsvil...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > My Bro-in-law just bought a 100x500' parcel of land that has
> > only a well and a 10x15' garage currently. He's going to build
> > on the footprint of the home that was ripped down several years ago.
>
> > He mentioned to me that he _HAS_ to blow at leat $1000 for an
> > electrician to run electric service to the garage (so theres juice
> > onsite while he's building the home).
>
> > My general understanding is that he/we should be able to mount a
> > service entry (box that the power company's meter goes in) and
> > a breaker panel on a pole or on the garage, and call in the power
> > company to connect service. A neighbor of mine (since moved)
> > had "power on a pole" while he built his place.
>
> > I/We have no problem with the cost of an electricans services, but
> > prefer to spend that $ on an electrician wiring the house, not on
> > a
> > simple 1-drop, 1-panel, 2-outlet, temporary install.
>
> > The wiring/job is simple, and let's assume our work will be within
> > builing-code/spec/best-practices.
>
> > Why Shouldn't we be able to DIY it? What are the roadblocks?
>
> > Thanks
>
> The law(s) / codes of the area he lives in???
>
> Lou- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Any mandate in any state/county that says only a licensed electrician
may
touch wires? I gues thats the meat of the question.


Posted by aemeijers on September 1, 2007, 6:49 am

>> mpdsvil...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > My Bro-in-law just bought a 100x500' parcel of land that has
>> > only a well and a 10x15' garage currently. He's going to build
>> > on the footprint of the home that was ripped down several years ago.
>>
>> > He mentioned to me that he _HAS_ to blow at leat $1000 for an
>> > electrician to run electric service to the garage (so theres juice
>> > onsite while he's building the home).
>>
>> > My general understanding is that he/we should be able to mount a
>> > service entry (box that the power company's meter goes in) and
>> > a breaker panel on a pole or on the garage, and call in the power
>> > company to connect service. A neighbor of mine (since moved)
>> > had "power on a pole" while he built his place.
>>
>> > I/We have no problem with the cost of an electricans services, but
>> > prefer to spend that $ on an electrician wiring the house, not on
>> > a
>> > simple 1-drop, 1-panel, 2-outlet, temporary install.
>>
>> > The wiring/job is simple, and let's assume our work will be within
>> > builing-code/spec/best-practices.
>>
>> > Why Shouldn't we be able to DIY it? What are the roadblocks?
>>
>> > Thanks
>>
>> The law(s) / codes of the area he lives in???
>>
>> Lou- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Any mandate in any state/county that says only a licensed electrician
> may
> touch wires? I gues thats the meat of the question.
>
I built more than one 'temporary service' power pole and set it, as a kid,
for construction sites. Operative words being 'construction sites'. In
central Indiana at the time, the rules were that meters on poles would only
be hooked up for sites with current and valid building permits, and for
code-permitted trailers that were not solid enough for a meter base to be
attached to. Not sure if it was a local law or power company policy. The
guy who hooked up the drop decided if it was solid enough to take the strain
or not. (ie, he would grab it at meter height and try to rock it back and
forth.) He also wanted the weather head to be at least 10' off the ground,
and the pole spotted where the drop would not cross the driveway where the
tall trucks would hit it. In those simpler times, we had never heard of
GFCI, but the breaker box and outlet panel had to be weather-rated, usually
via one of those boxes with a top-hinged lid with cord notches and rubber
grommets at the bottom. I would build the poles using a prefab kit for the
wiring, that was assembled from weather head to outlet box- just attach it
all to a flat board lagged to the pole itself, which usually consisted of 3
12-foot 2x8s nailed together in a T cross-section. The local electric
wholesale supply house kept the kits in stock.

Aside from ensuring that power company and/or licensed electricians get
work, not allowing DIY poles in your area is probably a public safety
decision. Yeah, 9 ot of 10 competent DIYs could probably build and plant one
with no problem, but that 10th one may fall over, arc, and start a grass
fire that takes out the neighborhood. They may also want to make sure
somebody just doesn't live in an RV on the site for years- 'owner built'
houses are notorious for never getting finished and becoming eyesores and
safety hazards.

aem sends....



Posted by terry on September 1, 2007, 10:12 am
>
>
>
>
> >> mpdsvil...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > My Bro-in-law just bought a 100x500' parcel of land that has
> >> > only a well and a 10x15' garage currently. He's going to build
> >> > on the footprint of the home that was ripped down several years ago.
>
> >> > He mentioned to me that he _HAS_ to blow at least $1000 for an
> >> > electrician to run electric service to the garage (so there's juice
> >> > on site while he's building the home).
>
> >> > My general understanding is that he/we should be able to mount a
> >> > service entry (box that the power company's meter goes in) and
> >> > a breaker panel on a pole or on the garage, and call in the power
> >> > company to connect service. A neighbor of mine (since moved)
> >> > had "power on a pole" while he built his place.
>
> >> > I/We have no problem with the cost of an electricans services, but
> >> > prefer to spend that $ on an electrician wiring the house, not on
> >> > a
> >> > simple 1-drop, 1-panel, 2-outlet, temporary install.
>
> >> > The wiring/job is simple, and let's assume our work will be within
> >> > builing-code/spec/best-practices.
>
> >> > Why Shouldn't we be able to DIY it? What are the roadblocks?
>
> >> > Thanks
>
> >> The law(s) / codes of the area he lives in???
>
> >> Lou- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Any mandate in any state/county that says only a licensed electrician
> > may
> > touch wires? I gues thats the meat of the question.
>
> I built more than one 'temporary service' power pole and set it, as a kid,
> for construction sites. Operative words being 'construction sites'. In
> central Indiana at the time, the rules were that meters on poles would only
> be hooked up for sites with current and valid building permits, and for
> code-permitted trailers that were not solid enough for a meter base to be
> attached to. Not sure if it was a local law or power company policy. The
> guy who hooked up the drop decided if it was solid enough to take the strain
> or not. (ie, he would grab it at meter height and try to rock it back and
> forth.) He also wanted the weather head to be at least 10' off the ground,
> and the pole spotted where the drop would not cross the driveway where the
> tall trucks would hit it. In those simpler times, we had never heard of
> GFCI, but the breaker box and outlet panel had to be weather-rated, usually
> via one of those boxes with a top-hinged lid with cord notches and rubber
> grommets at the bottom. I would build the poles using a prefab kit for the
> wiring, that was assembled from weather head to outlet box- just attach it
> all to a flat board lagged to the pole itself, which usually consisted of 3
> 12-foot 2x8s nailed together in a T cross-section. The local electric
> wholesale supply house kept the kits in stock.
>
> Aside from ensuring that power company and/or licensed electricians get
> work, not allowing DIY poles in your area is probably a public safety
> decision. Yeah, 9 ot of 10 competent DIYs could probably build and plant one
> with no problem, but that 10th one may fall over, arc, and start a grass
> fire that takes out the neighborhood. They may also want to make sure
> somebody just doesn't live in an RV on the site for years- 'owner built'
> houses are notorious for never getting finished and becoming eyesores and
> safety hazards.
>
> aem sends....- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Here:Similar but 12 feet above ground. Supposed to be able to drive
truck under it?
Many years ago my neighbour a maintenance tech./electrician at the
local airport installed a pole mounted meter and weather head and got
it hooked up by the power co. To finish construction 100 amps AFIK.
He afterwards ran something from that pole into his basement power
panel and left it that way!
I did something similar by having 60 amp AC service provided to a
workshop shed at back of our property.
We then both built our houses doing much of the work ourselves.
Ours later became a proper o/head 200 amp hook up to our house.
He left his UG section in place and many years later it leaked into
the ground you could feel potential on our well grounded dryer washer
in our basement over a 100 feet away!
Agree it all depends on local rules and the power co. If you had moved
a construction trailer already equipped with a meter socket and
mashead from another location doubt it should cost a $1000! And the
power co would possibly hook you up for free as a new customer!


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