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DIY Electric Service from Power Company mpdsville1@yahoo.com 09-01-2007
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Posted by RBM on September 1, 2007, 6:47 am
As others have said, you need to check with the local jurisdiction. There
may not be any road blocks. You could also work an arrangement with the
electrician that's going to wire the house, to allow you to install the
temp, which he will guide , oversee and file any papers


> My Bro-in-law just bought a 100x500' parcel of land that has
> only a well and a 10x15' garage currently. He's going to build
> on the footprint of the home that was ripped down several years ago.
>
> He mentioned to me that he _HAS_ to blow at leat $1000 for an
> electrician to run electric service to the garage (so theres juice
> onsite while he's building the home).
>
> My general understanding is that he/we should be able to mount a
> service entry (box that the power company's meter goes in) and
> a breaker panel on a pole or on the garage, and call in the power
> company to connect service. A neighbor of mine (since moved)
> had "power on a pole" while he built his place.
>
> I/We have no problem with the cost of an electricans services, but
> prefer to spend that $ on an electrician wiring the house, not on
> a
> simple 1-drop, 1-panel, 2-outlet, temporary install.
>
> The wiring/job is simple, and let's assume our work will be within
> builing-code/spec/best-practices.
>
> Why Shouldn't we be able to DIY it? What are the roadblocks?
>
>
> Thanks
>



Posted by mm on September 1, 2007, 4:03 pm
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:19:03 -0700, "mpdsville1@yahoo.com"

>
>
>My general understanding is that he/we should be able to mount a
> service entry (box that the power company's meter goes in) and
> a breaker panel on a pole or on the garage, and call in the power
> company to connect service. A neighbor of mine (since moved)
> had "power on a pole" while he built his place.

If you can't diy power on a pole, consider power on a garage.

I am not an electrician and have no idea what the issues are, but the
garage seems less likely to fall over, and cheaper, than a new
untested pole.


Posted by mpdsville1@yahoo.com on September 3, 2007, 2:47 am
Thanks to all responses, the thoughtful and well composed
reasons why building codes exist, and the valuable information
in all of the responses. (That was meant as sincere, not snide. )

As far as the project itself is concerned.. How's this sound?
o Mount a P/T 4x4 on the outside of the existing garage.
o ServiceEntrance box at chest level, with conduit running
up the 4x4 to 10'. Conduit goes another 2' above 4x4 to 12'
(1' above peak of garage, appx 6' lateral clearance from peak
of roof to mast-head)
o Install a weather head/boot and leave 3' hanging for the power
company to connect to.
o Grounded properly to rebar driven into the earth
o Assuming 100a service, we wire the mast-conduit-meterbox
with 4 gauge exterior-grade wire .. 10' run from masthead to
meter box
o 100a panel will be on the interior side of the garage ,appx 2'
wire run from meter box to 100a panel. 4 gauge as well.
o weatherproof where wire passes from outside to inside
o 100a panel will have master breaker and no circuits or breakers
at time of power-co turn-on.

As far a building codes go. if theres no interior wiring, and it
doesnt
concern a occupied dwelling, the local building inspector has no
issue with running service to a garage on an otherwise vacant lot.
(I asked)

So how's the above plan sound for site-power?



Posted by RBM on September 3, 2007, 7:51 am
This has more to do with local jurisdiction than anything someone from
another jurisdiction can tell you. For example, if your mast is 2' above the
support timber, the temp service drop would have to be attached to the
mast, not the 4X4, which is fine provided the mast is 2" or larger IMC or
galv pipe. These rules are local, ymmv
> Thanks to all responses, the thoughtful and well composed
> reasons why building codes exist, and the valuable information
> in all of the responses. (That was meant as sincere, not snide. )
>
> As far as the project itself is concerned.. How's this sound?
> o Mount a P/T 4x4 on the outside of the existing garage.
> o ServiceEntrance box at chest level, with conduit running
> up the 4x4 to 10'. Conduit goes another 2' above 4x4 to 12'
> (1' above peak of garage, appx 6' lateral clearance from peak
> of roof to mast-head)
> o Install a weather head/boot and leave 3' hanging for the power
> company to connect to.
> o Grounded properly to rebar driven into the earth
> o Assuming 100a service, we wire the mast-conduit-meterbox
> with 4 gauge exterior-grade wire .. 10' run from masthead to
> meter box
> o 100a panel will be on the interior side of the garage ,appx 2'
> wire run from meter box to 100a panel. 4 gauge as well.
> o weatherproof where wire passes from outside to inside
> o 100a panel will have master breaker and no circuits or breakers
> at time of power-co turn-on.
>
> As far a building codes go. if theres no interior wiring, and it
> doesnt
> concern a occupied dwelling, the local building inspector has no
> issue with running service to a garage on an otherwise vacant lot.
> (I asked)
>
> So how's the above plan sound for site-power?
>
>



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on September 3, 2007, 8:20 am
easy near free solution:)

If there are any neighbors nearby hook onto their service, and pay
their electric bill during construction. have your bereaker a bit
smaller than their breaker, so you cant trip their breaker ever.

this is a very common solution during home construction has been done
locally a neighbor got free electric while a bunch of new homes were
being built, and has been on this old house.



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