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Deadbolts For Front Entry Doors Jack 04-01-2008
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on April 4, 2008, 9:08 am
Do you have a link to such an item?

They did make a DB with two inch throw, but that was twenty years ago. Now
days, one inch throw seems to be the standard.

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when buying deadbolt get one with extended shackle that goes thru not
only strike plate but wall stud too..........

much more secure.

but realize if somone wants to really get in they can, glass windows
etc.

if in bad area buy security system or at least put up signs protected
by so and so security............



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on April 6, 2008, 9:30 pm
On Apr 4, 9:08=EF=BF=BDam, "Stormin Mormon"
> Do you have a link to such an item?
>
> They did make a DB with two inch throw, but that was twenty years ago. Now=

> days, one inch throw seems to be the standard.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> =EF=BF=BDwww.lds.org
> .
>
>
>
> when buying deadbolt get one with extended shackle that goes thru not
> only strike plate but wall stud too..........
>
> much more secure.
>
> but realize if somone wants to really get in they can, glass windows
> etc.
>
> if in bad area buy security system or at least put up signs protected
> by so and so security............

mine came from home depot, and saved a break in,,,,,

they damaged the trim and jam but didnt get in..

home was for sale at time and vacant. police figured it was kids
looking for party house

Posted by z on April 4, 2008, 1:27 pm
> I put decorative hooks on the wall at the top of the stairs where we alway=
s
> hung our keys when we came in, with one hook with only a door key. =A0My
> theory was that even if one of us forgot to hang our keys there would alwa=
ys
> be at least one there, and even in the worst case of fire we'd =A0be able =
to
> get out. =A0The risk seemed much less than the possibility of someone brea=
king
> one of the small panes and getting in.
>

Yeah, i've always hung the inside key on a nail in the door casing far
enough away that a burglar couldn't see it or feel for it without
smashing the door down anyway, but where I could nab it in the dark
smokey room without much trouble. It's not that hard to find such a
spot.

Posted by mm on April 6, 2008, 9:30 pm

>I had a double cylinder on my back door for 25 years. The door had small
>windowpanes, easily broken and was somewhat secluded from view on the
>outside. It entered onto the basement landing, making it also secluded from
>the inside. It was the main door we used since our parking was at the rear
>of the house.
>
>I put decorative hooks on the wall at the top of the stairs where we always
>hung our keys when we came in, with one hook with only a door key. My
>theory was that even if one of us forgot to hang our keys there would always
>be at least one there, and even in the worst case of fire we'd be able to
>get out. The risk seemed much less than the possibility of someone breaking
>one of the small panes and getting in.

If you had bottom posted, the relevance of my reply to you AND
Percival would be easier to show.

When I had the double lock, I lived in an apartment, with only one
exit. There was a fire escape, but I didn't want to resort to that
just because I couldn't find a key, and the fire escape is meant to be
one of two exits, not the sole exit.. If the fire is in my apartment,
there can be some who can exit through the door without crawling
through the flames, and others who can exit throught the fire escape
without crawling through the flames.

If the door can't be unlocked, some people may not be able to reach
the fire escape becaues of the fire. Although there never was one in
the building, and probably not even on the block, in the 12 years I
lived there.
>
>
>> On 04/02/08 12:11 am mm wrote:
>>
>>>> What is the difference between sgl cyl & dbl cyl? -- Thanks
>>>
>>> One is a seagull cylinder and the other is a Double Stuff Oreo
>>> cylinder.
>>>
>>> With double, if someone breaks in through a window, they can't unlock
>>> the door to carry things out.
>>>
>>> Also, if you have windows in that very door, they can't break the
>>> glass and unlock the door.
>>>
>>> I put in double when I had an apartment, because the fire escape was
>>> accessible to others. But I never locked that deadbolt when I was
>>> home, because I didn't want to depend on finding the key if there was
>>> a fire, or if I were in a hurry. Even with various roommates, it was
>>> easy to get them to follow the same rule. (and they weren't very good
>>> learners otherwise.)
>>
>>
>> A few years back I lamented that I had been unable to find locks like the
>> lock (maybe Yale) I had on my front door in Australia: one did not need
>> the key to lock it, but, once the button was pressed and the door was
>> closed, the deadbolt tripped, so that the key was needed to open it either
>> from the inside or from the outside.
>>
>> I was told that a lock that could not be opened from the inside without a
>> key was a safety hazard in the event of a fire and was a violation of the
>> Code.
>>
>> Perce


Posted by z on April 4, 2008, 1:32 pm
> On 04/02/08 12:11 am mm wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> What is the difference between sgl cyl & dbl cyl? -- Thanks
>
> > One is a seagull cylinder and the other is a Double Stuff Oreo
> > cylinder.
>
> > With double, if someone breaks in through a window, they can't unlock
> > the door to carry things out.
>
> > Also, if you have windows in that very door, they can't break the
> > glass and unlock the door.
>
> > I put in double when I had an apartment, because the fire escape was
> > accessible to others. =A0But I never locked that deadbolt when I was
> > home, because I didn't want to depend on finding the key if there was
> > a fire, or if I were in a hurry. =A0Even with various roommates, it was
> > easy to get them to follow the same rule. =A0(and they weren't very good=

> > learners otherwise.)
>
> A few years back I lamented that I had been unable to find locks like
> the lock (maybe Yale) I had on my front door in Australia: one did not
> need the key to lock it, but, once the button was pressed and the door
> was closed, the deadbolt tripped, so that the key was needed to open it
> either from the inside or from the outside.
>
> I was told that a lock that could not be opened from the inside without
> a key was a safety hazard in the event of a fire and was a violation of
> the Code.
>
> Perce- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

i've got old double cylinder vertical deadblots (dont' see them much
any more) which were expensive at the time, but clever; sounds
something like yours.
if you open the door from the inside and go out, if you trip a lever,
it will lock without the key, but if you don't trip the lever, it
won't, so you can't accidentally lock yourself out, only deliberately;
on the other hand, if you open it from the outside and close it, it
automatically locks again. i wish they still made locks this smart, i
removed them from my last house and reinstalled them in my new one.
which involves fixing the big hole vertical deadbolts leave in the
molding.

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