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Depth of footings for porch franz fripplfrappl 04-01-2008
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Posted by willshak on April 1, 2008, 2:07 pm
on 4/1/2008 1:35 PM ransley said the following:
>
>> franz fripplfrappl wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking about replacing an old porch this summer. Central Wisconsin.
>>>
>>> What is recommended depth for footings of corner posts?
>>>
>> At least 4 feet. Use Sonotube's BigFoot base if possible. At a minimum
>> wrap the Sonotube in polyethylene to help keeping it in place in the
>> face of frost heaves. Most decks don't weigh enough to keep a straight
>> footing in the ground when there are frequent freeze/melt cycles.
>>
>
> Sonotubes, yea right, bs , if he is building an addition ok, but this
> is a dam Deck, nothing more. Even small sheds you buy are recomended
> to have Pads, not foundations to frost. A fence yes, but not a deck.
>

He is in Wisconsin, and he says the deck is attached to the house.
If the deck is attached to the house, it needs support starting below
the frost line. Having a deck on surface pads heave a half inch or so
during a Wisconsin winter will certainly un-attach the deck from the
house, over time.



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Posted by franz fripplfrappl on April 1, 2008, 3:15 pm
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:07:21 -0400, willshak wrote:

> on 4/1/2008 1:35 PM ransley said the following:
>>
>>> franz fripplfrappl wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thinking about replacing an old porch this summer. Central
>>>> Wisconsin.
>>>>
>>>> What is recommended depth for footings of corner posts?
>>>>
>>> At least 4 feet. Use Sonotube's BigFoot base if possible. At a
>>> minimum wrap the Sonotube in polyethylene to help keeping it in place
>>> in the face of frost heaves. Most decks don't weigh enough to keep a
>>> straight footing in the ground when there are frequent freeze/melt
>>> cycles.
>>>
>>>
>> Sonotubes, yea right, bs , if he is building an addition ok, but this
>> is a dam Deck, nothing more. Even small sheds you buy are recomended to
>> have Pads, not foundations to frost. A fence yes, but not a deck.
>>
>>
> He is in Wisconsin, and he says the deck is attached to the house. If
> the deck is attached to the house, it needs support starting below the
> frost line. Having a deck on surface pads heave a half inch or so during
> a Wisconsin winter will certainly un-attach the deck from the house,
> over time.

It's a porch, NOT a deck.

Posted by Jim Elbrecht on April 1, 2008, 2:16 pm
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:35:11 -0700 (PDT), ransley
-snip-
> Even small sheds you buy are recomended
>to have Pads, not foundations to frost.

The reason sheds are allowed to have pads is because they float up and
down & it doesn't matter.

Presumably the house stays in place because it has a foundation. If
you attach something rigid to the house, it must not move up and down
or it will pull itself away from the house.

Jim

Posted by ransley on April 1, 2008, 3:13 pm
rote:
>
> -snip-
>
> > Even small sheds you buy are recomended
> >to have Pads, not foundations to frost.
>
> The reason sheds are allowed to have pads is because they float up and
> down & it doesn't matter. =A0
>
> Presumably the house stays in place because it has a foundation. =A0If
> you attach something rigid to the house, it must not move up and down
> or it will pull itself away from the house.
>
> Jim

Why not its a deck, and mine is fine after 35 years doing it, You dont
have doors or windows to worry about I still say its overkill as I
have had no problems. If it had doors or a roof attached to the home
then it would need piers.

Posted by franz fripplfrappl on April 1, 2008, 3:14 pm
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:35:11 -0700, ransley wrote:

>> franz fripplfrappl wrote:
>> > Thinking about replacing an old porch this summer.  Central
>> > Wisconsin.
>>
>> > What is recommended depth for footings of corner posts?
>>
>> At least 4 feet.  Use Sonotube's BigFoot base if possible.  At a
>> minimum wrap the Sonotube in polyethylene to help keeping it in place
>> in the face of frost heaves.  Most decks don't weigh enough to keep a
>> straight footing in the ground when there are frequent freeze/melt
>> cycles.
>
> Sonotubes, yea right, bs , if he is building an addition ok, but this is
> a dam Deck, nothing more. Even small sheds you buy are recomended to
> have Pads, not foundations to frost. A fence yes, but not a deck.

It's an attached porch with roof. Not a deck! I never mentioned deck.
No idea where this came from.

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