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Did I Get Screwed By an Incompetent Roofer? Need Advice mg 06-03-2007
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Posted by mm on June 4, 2007, 11:57 am
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:12:56 -0700, Tim Smith

>> >> Rabbit ears work, and I thought the satellite frequencies were higher
>> >> than UHF.
>> >
>> >They are, but consider that visible light is much* higher yet. It
>> >gets scattered pretty well by trees.
>>
>> OK. Good point. I guess his neighbor should put in transparent trees.
>
>This reminds me of a conversation I sat in on once. Some people were
>wondering what to do with an old junk PDP-8 computer.
>
> Person #1: We could throw it into the pond.
>
> Person #2: I wonder if it would float?
>
> ...silence for a moment, as people think about that...
>
> Someone: Well, it's smaller than a Volkswagen, and those float.
>
> Everyone: Ooh...good point!
>
> ...silence for a while....
>
> Someone Else: A rock is smaller than a Volkswagen.
>
>What's scary about that conversation was it took place at Caltech, among
>people who went on to be chip designers, or build systems used by the
>NSA, or design air bag trigger sensors for the auto industry, and things
>like that.
>
>(To be fair, some of that conversation was influenced by alcohol and/or
>marijuana and/or a very hot, humid, Pasadena summer evening making
>everyone loopy).

I am often stupid but to be fair to me, not in this case. I was
relying on his answer to my first question, can signals go through
trees? to which he said No.

Also I've already read lots of threads where people were trying to
avoid trees in front of their dishes.

And I didn't rely on frequencies of light being higher than UHF to
show that satellite signals wouldn't go through trees, only to show
that my "logic" that they would, that higher would go through more
stuff was faulty. Without that I had nothing.



Posted by Glenn on June 4, 2007, 1:45 pm

Haven't been reading these postings but did look in and
noticed this one on satellite going through trees. You are
right, they don't. I had a tree that I thought was clear
and it was until it grew another 10 feet sideways and
blocked the signal. Had to move the dish down the back of
the garage some 20 feet to be sure.


> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:12:56 -0700, Tim Smith
> I am often stupid but to be fair to me, not in this case.
> I was
> relying on his answer to my first question, can signals go
> through
> trees? to which he said No.
>
> Also I've already read lots of threads where people were
> trying to
> avoid trees in front of their dishes.
>
> And I didn't rely on frequencies of light being higher
> than UHF to
> show that satellite signals wouldn't go through trees,
> only to show
> that my "logic" that they would, that higher would go
> through more
> stuff was faulty. Without that I had nothing.
>
>


Posted by Eigenvector on June 4, 2007, 7:40 pm

> On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:12:56 -0700, Tim Smith
>
>>> >> Rabbit ears work, and I thought the satellite frequencies were higher
>>> >> than UHF.
>>> >
>>> >They are, but consider that visible light is much* higher yet. It
>>> >gets scattered pretty well by trees.
>>>
>>> OK. Good point. I guess his neighbor should put in transparent trees.
>>
>>This reminds me of a conversation I sat in on once. Some people were
>>wondering what to do with an old junk PDP-8 computer.
>>
>> Person #1: We could throw it into the pond.
>>
>> Person #2: I wonder if it would float?
>>
>> ...silence for a moment, as people think about that...
>>
>> Someone: Well, it's smaller than a Volkswagen, and those float.
>>
>> Everyone: Ooh...good point!
>>
>> ...silence for a while....
>>
>> Someone Else: A rock is smaller than a Volkswagen.
>>
>>What's scary about that conversation was it took place at Caltech, among
>>people who went on to be chip designers, or build systems used by the
>>NSA, or design air bag trigger sensors for the auto industry, and things
>>like that.
>>
>>(To be fair, some of that conversation was influenced by alcohol and/or
>>marijuana and/or a very hot, humid, Pasadena summer evening making
>>everyone loopy).
>
> I am often stupid but to be fair to me, not in this case. I was
> relying on his answer to my first question, can signals go through
> trees? to which he said No.
>
> Also I've already read lots of threads where people were trying to
> avoid trees in front of their dishes.
>
> And I didn't rely on frequencies of light being higher than UHF to
> show that satellite signals wouldn't go through trees, only to show
> that my "logic" that they would, that higher would go through more
> stuff was faulty. Without that I had nothing.
>
>

It's not an unfair question to ask. Radio waves go through trees just fine.
TV reception goes through trees,



Posted by Travis Jordan on June 7, 2007, 5:31 pm
> It's not an unfair question to ask. Radio waves go through trees just
> fine. TV reception goes through trees,

And DBS is what kind of waves?



Posted by Tim Smith on June 4, 2007, 8:00 pm
> I am often stupid but to be fair to me, not in this case. I was

It wasn't meant to imply anything about you. The thread with you just
reminded me of that conversation because of the way it was structured,
not the actual content and its brilliance or not. :-)


--
--Tim Smith

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