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Did I just flood the wall behind my tub? headware 04-27-2008
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Posted by Oren on April 28, 2008, 7:58 pm
wrote:

>
>>> headware wrote:
>>>
>>> >>I was replacing the caulking in my bathtub and I removed caulking
>>> >>around the drain trip cover plate just below the faucet. I also
>>> >>loosened the plate it self so I could clean the tub behind it. I then
>>> >>screwed the plate back into place but did NOT caulk it. I then started
>>> >>to fill the bathtub up with water, got distracted, and accidentally
>>> >>filled the tub about half way up the cover plate. I turned off the
>>> >>water and could hear it draining. I know it was draining through cover
>>> >>plate because I had duct taped the actual drain closed.
>>>
>>> >>My question is where did that water go? Did I just flood the wall
>>> >>behind my bathtub or does the space behind the cover plate lead down
>>> >>into the drain? Diagrams online seem to indicate that it goes into the
>>> >>drain, which is in line with the sound I heard, but I wanted to make
>>> >>sure.
>>>
>>> >>Thanks,
>>> >>Dave
>>>
>>> > After doing a little more research, it looks like the plate is
>>> > actually the overflow safety mechanism and is intended to drain water
>>> > out of the tub in case you leave it running. I'm not sure why this one
>>> > had been caulked since that would seem to negate its purpose, but I
>>> > guess the point is that these do, in fact, lead to the drain. I won't
>>> > replace the caulking around it.
>>>
>>> > Dave
>>>
>>> Here's an exploded
>>> view:http://www.plumbingproducts.com/wasteoverflowparts.html
>>>
>>> Yes, it goes into the drain.
>>>
>>> One note: Rubber gasket, Part #1, fits *behind* the tub
>>> and seals the tub to the overflow tube flange.
>>> Often, that rubber deteriorates and doesn't seal well.
>>> In that event, you can get leakage behind the tub any time
>>> water runs down the tub surface, such as when showering;
>>> it doesn't need to be a true overflow situation to do it.
>>>
>>> The rubber can be replaced (if yours has gone bad) by working
>>> a new one in thru the opening.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I looked and there does not appear to be any
>> rubber gasket at all. I do have a Price Pfister so I'm not sure why
>> there isn't one there. I looked at the other tub in my house and saw
>> the same thing; no gasket. Is it possible my model doesn't use that
>> part? It's likely an old tub (15-20 years). Not sure how it would keep
>> a good seal if it didn't have one. Maybe I should order a couple.
>
>The gasket should go between the outside of the tub and the overflow drain
pipe.
>If there is none, it may leak, which could explain why the drain holes were
>caulked shut.
>

With the proper gasket in place, the OP can caulk around the plate.
Look at the bottom of the plate for a weep slot .... do not caulk that
shut or the tub will overflow.


Posted by Bob F on April 29, 2008, 2:19 am

>>The gasket should go between the outside of the tub and the overflow drain
>>pipe.
>>If there is none, it may leak, which could explain why the drain holes were
>>caulked shut.
>>
>
> With the proper gasket in place, the OP can caulk around the plate.
> Look at the bottom of the plate for a weep slot .... do not caulk that
> shut or the tub will overflow.
>

Why would he want to?



Posted by ransley on April 29, 2008, 3:02 am
> >>The gasket should go between the outside of the tub and the overflow dra=
in
> >>pipe.
> >>If there is none, it may leak, which could explain why the drain holes w=
ere
> >>caulked shut.
>
> > With the proper gasket in place, the OP can caulk around the plate.
> > Look at the bottom of the plate for a weep slot .... do not caulk that
> > shut or the tub will overflow.
>
> Why would he want to?

The water went down the drain, as it is supposed to.

Posted by Bob F on April 30, 2008, 2:20 am

> >>The gasket should go between the outside of the tub and the overflow drain
> >>pipe.
> >>If there is none, it may leak, which could explain why the drain holes were
> >>caulked shut.
>
> > With the proper gasket in place, the OP can caulk around the plate.
> > Look at the bottom of the plate for a weep slot .... do not caulk that
> > shut or the tub will overflow.
>
> Why would he want to?

The water went down the drain, as it is supposed to.

*************************************************************

?????



Posted by headware on May 5, 2008, 12:31 am
>
>
> > >>The gasket should go between the outside of the tub and the overflow drain
> > >>pipe.
> > >>If there is none, it may leak, which could explain why the drain holes were
> > >>caulked shut.
>
> > > With the proper gasket in place, the OP can caulk around the plate.
> > > Look at the bottom of the plate for a weep slot .... do not caulk that
> > > shut or the tub will overflow.
>
> > Why would he want to?
>
> The water went down the drain, as it is supposed to.
>
> *************************************************************
>
> ?????

I appreciate all the advice. After further cleaning and inspection
with a flashlight, it appears that the rubber gaskets are in place in
both tubs after all. They were just covered in a layer of filth and
slime so they weren't readily visible. Sorry for the confusion, but
thanks for the help.

Dave

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