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Digital TV Frank 01-23-2008
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Posted by mm on February 5, 2008, 1:49 am
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:40:45 +0000 (UTC), davem@cs.ubc.ca (Dave
Martindale) wrote:

>
>No, flat screen CRTs appeared years ago, well before LCD screens were
>any sort of reasonable alternative to CRTs. Flat screen CRTs *were*
>different, and commanded a price premium over, non-flat CRTs. The
>standard Trinitron or equivalent slot-mask tube typically had a
>cylindrical face, while delta-gun CRTs typically had a somewhat
>spherical screen face.
>
>(I'm typing this on a flat-screen CRT, a ViewSonic EF70).

Wow. Touchscreen has come a long way. I have to use a keyboard.
>
>        Dave


Posted by on January 24, 2008, 6:03 am
wrote:

>>AZ Nomad wrote:
>
>>>>Just bought a cheap 20" Tube TV for our Kitchen. This unit has a digital
>>>>tuner built in. We have cable . My question is since the cable box converts
>>>>the digital signal to analog am I missing some picture quality? Most likely
>>>>connecting the cable directly would not allow me to receive premium
>>>>channels. Any one else out there solved the same problem---if there is
>>>>one---. comcast has only one cable box.
>>>
>>>A cheap 20" tube tv won't have a digital tuner no matter how they hype it.
>>>They're probably pleased that it has a digital readout.
>
>>Sure it will, all TV's sold now are going to have a digital tuner
>>because in Feb 09 the analog signal goes bye-bye.
>A shitty tube TV wasn't designed looking a whole year ahead. It was slapped
>together with the cheapest components available *now*.
>
>
>
>>>Did they also call it a "flat screen"? :-)
>
>>If the CRT is flat and not convex they can call it "flat screen"
>>because it is.
>
>They call it a "flat screen" to fool people into buying it thinking
>it is a flat panel TV like an LCD screen. "Flat Screen" was never
>marketing hype before flat panels were on the market.

Sorry, but that is incorrect.



Posted by mm on February 5, 2008, 1:49 am
wrote:

>
>>>>>Did they also call it a "flat screen"? :-)
>>>
>>>>If the CRT is flat and not convex they can call it "flat screen"
>>>>because it is.
>>>
>>>They call it a "flat screen" to fool people into buying it thinking
>>>it is a flat panel TV like an LCD screen. "Flat Screen" was never
>>>marketing hype before flat panels were on the market.
>>
>> Well you would have to be a real idiot not to notice the extra 18"
>> sticking out the back of the damn box if you thought you were getting
>> an LCD. Besides, flat screen CRT's do look better than convex so it's
>> not just some marketing "hype".

Not only that, but if there is a window or other lamp in the room, the
flatter the screen the easier it is to turn the tv or to sit so that
the light won't be reflected in the screen. With a convex screen,
this can be impossible. (Of course that's all I have, and most places
it's ok)
>
>And they were pushing them well before flat-panel displays became available.
>


Posted by mm on February 5, 2008, 2:00 am
wrote:

>AZ Nomad wrote:
>
>>>AZ Nomad wrote:
>>
>>>>>Just bought a cheap 20" Tube TV for our Kitchen. This unit has a digital
>>>>>tuner built in. We have cable . My question is since the cable box converts
>>>>>the digital signal to analog am I missing some picture quality? Most likely
>>>>>connecting the cable directly would not allow me to receive premium
>>>>>channels. Any one else out there solved the same problem---if there is
>>>>>one---. comcast has only one cable box.
>>>>
>>>>A cheap 20" tube tv won't have a digital tuner no matter how they hype it.
>>>>They're probably pleased that it has a digital readout.
>>
>>>Sure it will, all TV's sold now are going to have a digital tuner
>>>because in Feb 09 the analog signal goes bye-bye.
>
>>A shitty tube TV wasn't designed looking a whole year ahead. It was slapped
>>together with the cheapest components available *now*.
>
>Don't take my word for it. Go down to your nearest WalMart, Best Buy,
>any place that sells TV's and have a look.

By chance I was at Target on Reisterstown Road just inside the
Baltimore Beltway (there are two on that street) just two days ago,
and looked at tv's. They had what they called a kitchen tv for 185
dollars iirc, about 8" screen. It was digital. Then I noticed a tv
for even less, 145 maybe, with a much bigger screen. But there was a
catch.

>They all have digital
>tuners. In fact the FCC mandated that all TV's sold after March 1,
>2007 have a digital tuner.

I don't know about the FCC but I was at Target two days ago, and they
had at least two models that were not digital. The shelf-edge
price sign for each had a paragraph on the right that was at least 40
words long that said that the tv would only work with cable and
satellite after that date early next year.

>http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2007/02/26/fcc_rule_requires_all_new_tvs_to_be_digital/
>
Well, that's what Hiawatha says all right, but either he was wrong or
something has changed or Target is ignoring the law. I doubt it is
the third one because they went to a lot of trouble to print those
signs, which were very nicely done, and they could have just not
accepted those tv's in the first place.

Posted by on February 5, 2008, 11:05 am
wrote:

>Well, that's what Hiawatha says all right, but either he was wrong or
>something has changed or Target is ignoring the law. I doubt it is
>the third one because they went to a lot of trouble to print those
>signs, which were very nicely done, and they could have just not
>accepted those tv's in the first place.

The law says manufactured after "X" date. Old stock can still be sold.

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