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Dimmable CFL Tony Hwang 04-26-2008
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Posted by Tony Hwang on April 26, 2008, 11:33 pm
Hi,
Came across a 23W dimmable CFL. Got one to try it out.
It worked ~2 hours and pop, it went to full brightness and
no more dimmable??!! Are they this unreliable? Or I got bad one.

Posted by Don Klipstein on April 27, 2008, 2:00 am

>Came across a 23W dimmable CFL. Got one to try it out.
>It worked ~2 hours and pop, it went to full brightness and
>no more dimmable??!! Are they this unreliable? Or I got bad one.

Please tell us the details!

The usual "dimmable CFL" to most looking for those means one that is
safely usable with a "usual light dimmer". I find it hard to believe a
lamp refusing completely to be dimmed by a usual-for-incandescent-type
dimmer. Non-dimmable lamps tend to have short life expectancy when used
with a dimmer against their instructions, and may blow the dimmer.
Usually the lamp is what dies.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by Tony Hwang on April 27, 2008, 2:59 am
Don Klipstein wrote:
>
>
>>Came across a 23W dimmable CFL. Got one to try it out.
>>It worked ~2 hours and pop, it went to full brightness and
>>no more dimmable??!! Are they this unreliable? Or I got bad one.
>
>
> Please tell us the details!
>
> The usual "dimmable CFL" to most looking for those means one that is
> safely usable with a "usual light dimmer". I find it hard to believe a
> lamp refusing completely to be dimmed by a usual-for-incandescent-type
> dimmer. Non-dimmable lamps tend to have short life expectancy when used
> with a dimmer against their instructions, and may blow the dimmer.
> Usually the lamp is what dies.
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
Hi,
Packaging clearly said it is dimmable. I screwed it in side by side with
60W incdescent lamp, dimmed up and down a few times and noticed when
dimmed too low it was scintillating. At certain point it quit doing that
where I left it. Soon it went to full brightness while the other lamp
was still dimmed. From then on it is no more dimming, just stay at full
bightness.

Posted by Don Klipstein on April 27, 2008, 2:47 pm
>Don Klipstein wrote:
>>
>>>Came across a 23W dimmable CFL. Got one to try it out.
>>>It worked ~2 hours and pop, it went to full brightness and
>>>no more dimmable??!! Are they this unreliable? Or I got bad one.
>>
>> Please tell us the details!
>>
>> The usual "dimmable CFL" to most looking for those means one that is
>> safely usable with a "usual light dimmer". I find it hard to believe a
>> lamp refusing completely to be dimmed by a usual-for-incandescent-type
>> dimmer. Non-dimmable lamps tend to have short life expectancy when used
>> with a dimmer against their instructions, and may blow the dimmer.
>> Usually the lamp is what dies.
>>
>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
>Hi,
>Packaging clearly said it is dimmable. I screwed it in side by side with
>60W incdescent lamp, dimmed up and down a few times and noticed when
>dimmed too low it was scintillating. At certain point it quit doing that
>where I left it. Soon it went to full brightness while the other lamp
>was still dimmed. From then on it is no more dimming, just stay at full
>bightness.

I suspect the ballast circuitry in the CFL had part of it fail, and the
CFL converted itself into a conventional CFL. Those can have hardly any
dimming and can appear to be at full brightness until the dimmer is dimmed
past the point at which an incandescent has about 1/4 its normal
brightness. They can also be hard on the dimmer.

CFLs also often dim more slowly than incandescents do at first, being
about half brightness (or more) at a point at which an incandescent is
about 1/4 brightness. A CFL may start dimming more rapidly when dimmed
almost to being off, or may just suddenly turn off.

Special dimming ballasts for ballastless CFLs do better.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Blattus_Slaf on April 27, 2008, 9:20 am
Tony Hwang wrote:
> Hi,
> Came across a 23W dimmable CFL. Got one to try it out.
> It worked ~2 hours and pop, it went to full brightness and
> no more dimmable??!! Are they this unreliable? Or I got bad one.

You can't really expect a CFL to have the same range as an incandescent
bulb. If you are testing it to extremes you can expect it to pop.

--
Blattus Slafaly ? 3 :) 7/8

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