Dishwasher leaves grit on dishes - Page 3

> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>> Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>>>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> my Kenmore diskwaher leave grit and garbage on my dishes. this
>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>> from the dishes that are put in it. the arems move ok and are
>>>>>>>>>> not clogged.
>>>>>>>>>> drain is not clogged. seems to be heating and filling ok?
>>>>>>>>>> any suggenstions hot to fix this? is there a buildup of gunk
>>>>>>>>>> someplace.
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> Take it to the nearest bridge and drop it in the river. Then go
>>>>>>>>> buy a
>>>>>>>>> real dishwasher. On second thought, you don't need one, they are
>>>>>>>>> energy
>>>>>>>>> wasters. Do dishes by hand.
>>>>>>>> Dishwashers are well proven to both clean better and use less water
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> energy than hand washing dishes (presuming you run it with a
>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>> sized load).
>>>>>>> Only for idiots who run the hot rinse water continuously.
>>>>>>> I KNOW I use much less water than a dish washer. All I need is a
>>>>>>> small bowl with soapy water and a sponge. Turn the water on, rinse,
>>>>>>> shut the water off. Some people are so stupid and run a full sink of
>>>>>>> water and run the hot water the whole time for rinsing.
>>>>>>> A dish washer fills and empties several times using hot water all
>>>>>>> the time and use an electrical element to dry like an oven. Total
>>>>>>> waste of power. And sometimes they don't even get all the crud off.
>>>>>>> You either have to Pre-wash or wash again after. Really STUPID!
>>>>>> How much water would you estimate that you use to wash 10 dinner
>>>>>> plates, 10 smaller plates, 30 utensils, 6 bowls and 12 cups or
>>>>>> glasses?
>>>>> About a gallon.
>>>> You're lying. Don't lie. The only other option is that you don't rinse
>>>> the soap off sufficiently or you don't use enough soap to have clean
>>>> dishes.
>>> I use a little soap and a little bleach. Maybe it's 2 gallons. It don't
>>> take long to rinse the soap off a plate both sides under the faucet with
>>> a slow trickle.
>> With 2 gallons, that would be just under 4 ounces of water per item. Not
>> possible. Good luck.
> All I usually have is 1 plate, 1 fork, 1 bowl, 1 spoon, 1 coffee cup, 1
> spoon. 1 gallon.

> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>> Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>>>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> BM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> my Kenmore diskwaher leave grit and garbage on my dishes.
>>>>>>>>>> this is not from the dishes that are put in it. the arems move
>>>>>>>>>> ok and are not clogged. drain is not clogged. seems to be
>>>>>>>>>> heating and filling ok? any suggenstions hot to fix this? is
>>>>>>>>>> there a buildup of gunk someplace.
>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> Take it to the nearest bridge and drop it in the river. Then go
>>>>>>>>> buy a real dishwasher. On second thought, you don't need one,
>>>>>>>>> they are energy wasters. Do dishes by hand.
>>>>>>>> Dishwashers are well proven to both clean better and use less
>>>>>>>> water and energy than hand washing dishes (presuming you run it
>>>>>>>> with a reasonable sized load).
>>>>>>> Only for idiots who run the hot rinse water continuously.
>>>>>>> I KNOW I use much less water than a dish washer. All I need is a
>>>>>>> small bowl with soapy water and a sponge. Turn the water on,
>>>>>>> rinse, shut the water off. Some people are so stupid and run a
>>>>>>> full sink of water and run the hot water the whole time for
>>>>>>> rinsing. A dish washer fills and empties several times using hot
>>>>>>> water all the time and use an electrical element to dry like an
>>>>>>> oven. Total waste of power. And sometimes they don't even get all
>>>>>>> the crud off. You either have to Pre-wash or wash again after.
>>>>>>> Really STUPID!
>>>>>> How much water would you estimate that you use to wash 10 dinner
>>>>>> plates, 10 smaller plates, 30 utensils, 6 bowls and 12 cups or
>>>>>> glasses? About a gallon.
>>>> You're lying. Don't lie. The only other option is that you don't
>>>> rinse the soap off sufficiently or you don't use enough soap to have
>>>> clean dishes.
>>> I use a little soap and a little bleach. Maybe it's 2 gallons. It
>>> don't take long to rinse the soap off a plate both sides under the
>>> faucet with a slow trickle.
>>
>> With 2 gallons, that would be just under 4 ounces of water per item.
>> Not possible. Good luck.
>>
>>
> All I usually have is 1 plate, 1 fork, 1 bowl, 1 spoon, 1 coffee cup, 1
> spoon. 1 gallon.
>

> On Fri 02 Oct 2009 09:45:28a, Van Chocstraw told us...
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> BM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>> my Kenmore diskwaher leave grit and garbage on my dishes.
>>>>>>>>>>> this is not from the dishes that are put in it. the arems move
>>>>>>>>>>> ok and are not clogged. drain is not clogged. seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>> heating and filling ok? any suggenstions hot to fix this? is
>>>>>>>>>>> there a buildup of gunk someplace.
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>> Take it to the nearest bridge and drop it in the river. Then go
>>>>>>>>>> buy a real dishwasher. On second thought, you don't need one,
>>>>>>>>>> they are energy wasters. Do dishes by hand.
>>>>>>>>> Dishwashers are well proven to both clean better and use less
>>>>>>>>> water and energy than hand washing dishes (presuming you run it
>>>>>>>>> with a reasonable sized load).
>>>>>>>> Only for idiots who run the hot rinse water continuously.
>>>>>>>> I KNOW I use much less water than a dish washer. All I need is a
>>>>>>>> small bowl with soapy water and a sponge. Turn the water on,
>>>>>>>> rinse, shut the water off. Some people are so stupid and run a
>>>>>>>> full sink of water and run the hot water the whole time for
>>>>>>>> rinsing. A dish washer fills and empties several times using hot
>>>>>>>> water all the time and use an electrical element to dry like an
>>>>>>>> oven. Total waste of power. And sometimes they don't even get all
>>>>>>>> the crud off. You either have to Pre-wash or wash again after.
>>>>>>>> Really STUPID!
>>>>>>> How much water would you estimate that you use to wash 10 dinner
>>>>>>> plates, 10 smaller plates, 30 utensils, 6 bowls and 12 cups or
>>>>>>> glasses? About a gallon.
>>>>> You're lying. Don't lie. The only other option is that you don't
>>>>> rinse the soap off sufficiently or you don't use enough soap to have
>>>>> clean dishes.
>>>> I use a little soap and a little bleach. Maybe it's 2 gallons. It
>>>> don't take long to rinse the soap off a plate both sides under the
>>>> faucet with a slow trickle.
>>> With 2 gallons, that would be just under 4 ounces of water per item.
>>> Not possible. Good luck.
>> All I usually have is 1 plate, 1 fork, 1 bowl, 1 spoon, 1 coffee cup, 1
>> spoon. 1 gallon.
> We normally have enough items to fill a dishwasher on a daily basis, which
> does make more efficient use of the amount of water required.

>> On Fri 02 Oct 2009 09:45:28a, Van Chocstraw told us...
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> BM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>> my Kenmore diskwaher leave grit and garbage on my dishes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is not from the dishes that are put in it. the arems move
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok and are not clogged. drain is not clogged. seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> heating and filling ok? any suggenstions hot to fix this? is
>>>>>>>>>>>> there a buildup of gunk someplace.
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> Take it to the nearest bridge and drop it in the river. Then go
>>>>>>>>>>> buy a real dishwasher. On second thought, you don't need one,
>>>>>>>>>>> they are energy wasters. Do dishes by hand.
>>>>>>>>>> Dishwashers are well proven to both clean better and use less
>>>>>>>>>> water and energy than hand washing dishes (presuming you run it
>>>>>>>>>> with a reasonable sized load).
>>>>>>>>> Only for idiots who run the hot rinse water continuously.
>>>>>>>>> I KNOW I use much less water than a dish washer. All I need is a
>>>>>>>>> small bowl with soapy water and a sponge. Turn the water on,
>>>>>>>>> rinse, shut the water off. Some people are so stupid and run a
>>>>>>>>> full sink of water and run the hot water the whole time for
>>>>>>>>> rinsing. A dish washer fills and empties several times using hot
>>>>>>>>> water all the time and use an electrical element to dry like an
>>>>>>>>> oven. Total waste of power. And sometimes they don't even get all
>>>>>>>>> the crud off. You either have to Pre-wash or wash again after.
>>>>>>>>> Really STUPID!
>>>>>>>> How much water would you estimate that you use to wash 10 dinner
>>>>>>>> plates, 10 smaller plates, 30 utensils, 6 bowls and 12 cups or
>>>>>>>> glasses? About a gallon.
>>>>>> You're lying. Don't lie. The only other option is that you don't
>>>>>> rinse the soap off sufficiently or you don't use enough soap to have
>>>>>> clean dishes.
>>>>> I use a little soap and a little bleach. Maybe it's 2 gallons. It
>>>>> don't take long to rinse the soap off a plate both sides under the
>>>>> faucet with a slow trickle.
>>>> With 2 gallons, that would be just under 4 ounces of water per item.
>>>> Not possible. Good luck.
>>> All I usually have is 1 plate, 1 fork, 1 bowl, 1 spoon, 1 coffee cup, 1
>>> spoon. 1 gallon.
>> We normally have enough items to fill a dishwasher on a daily basis, which
>> does make more efficient use of the amount of water required.
>
>
> He's having a bit of difficulty with the arithmetic. Maybe this will help,
> although I doubt it:
>
> "As of August 11, 2009, ENERGY STAR qualified dishwashers are required to
> use 5.8 gallons of water per cycle or less. Older dishwashers use much more
> water than newer models. A dishwasher purchased before 1994 uses about 8
> additional gallons of water in each cycle compared to a new ENERGY STAR
> qualified model."
>
>

>
> Even an older dishwasher would do better than the gallon "per place setting"
> he's talking about.
>
>

>JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> On Fri 02 Oct 2009 09:45:28a, Van Chocstraw told us...
>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Pete C. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Van Chocstraw wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> BM wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my Kenmore diskwaher leave grit and garbage on my dishes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is not from the dishes that are put in it. the arems move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok and are not clogged. drain is not clogged. seems to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> heating and filling ok? any suggenstions hot to fix this? is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there a buildup of gunk someplace.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take it to the nearest bridge and drop it in the river. Then go
>>>>>>>>>>>> buy a real dishwasher. On second thought, you don't need one,
>>>>>>>>>>>> they are energy wasters. Do dishes by hand.
>>>>>>>>>>> Dishwashers are well proven to both clean better and use less
>>>>>>>>>>> water and energy than hand washing dishes (presuming you run it
>>>>>>>>>>> with a reasonable sized load).
>>>>>>>>>> Only for idiots who run the hot rinse water continuously.
>>>>>>>>>> I KNOW I use much less water than a dish washer. All I need is a
>>>>>>>>>> small bowl with soapy water and a sponge. Turn the water on,
>>>>>>>>>> rinse, shut the water off. Some people are so stupid and run a
>>>>>>>>>> full sink of water and run the hot water the whole time for
>>>>>>>>>> rinsing. A dish washer fills and empties several times using hot
>>>>>>>>>> water all the time and use an electrical element to dry like an
>>>>>>>>>> oven. Total waste of power. And sometimes they don't even get all
>>>>>>>>>> the crud off. You either have to Pre-wash or wash again after.
>>>>>>>>>> Really STUPID!
>>>>>>>>> How much water would you estimate that you use to wash 10 dinner
>>>>>>>>> plates, 10 smaller plates, 30 utensils, 6 bowls and 12 cups or
>>>>>>>>> glasses? About a gallon.
>>>>>>> You're lying. Don't lie. The only other option is that you don't
>>>>>>> rinse the soap off sufficiently or you don't use enough soap to have
>>>>>>> clean dishes.
>>>>>> I use a little soap and a little bleach. Maybe it's 2 gallons. It
>>>>>> don't take long to rinse the soap off a plate both sides under the
>>>>>> faucet with a slow trickle.
>>>>> With 2 gallons, that would be just under 4 ounces of water per item.
>>>>> Not possible. Good luck.
>>>> All I usually have is 1 plate, 1 fork, 1 bowl, 1 spoon, 1 coffee cup, 1
>>>> spoon. 1 gallon.
>>> We normally have enough items to fill a dishwasher on a daily basis, which
>>> does make more efficient use of the amount of water required.
>>
>>
>> He's having a bit of difficulty with the arithmetic. Maybe this will help,
>> although I doubt it:
>>
>> "As of August 11, 2009, ENERGY STAR qualified dishwashers are required to
>> use 5.8 gallons of water per cycle or less. Older dishwashers use much more
>> water than newer models. A dishwasher purchased before 1994 uses about 8
>> additional gallons of water in each cycle compared to a new ENERGY STAR
>> qualified model."
>>
>>

>>
>> Even an older dishwasher would do better than the gallon "per place setting"
>> he's talking about.
>>
>>
>You're all wet.