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Don't I need junction boxes? BETA-32 01-05-2007
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Posted by BETA-32 on January 5, 2007, 9:15 am


I just had a handyman-type person wire and install some very basic lights in
the basement of my home. The lights fixtures are just the very basic round
white plastic ones where a light bulb screws in. What he did was screw the
white plastic fixtures directly onto the ceiling joists with no junction
boxes or mounting boxes. The wires run along the joists and under the white
plastic fixture to the contacts.

I assume that's wrong and doesn't meet electrical codes. Am I right about
that?

And, yes, I know I should have a licensed electrician, etc., etc.





Posted by on January 5, 2007, 9:24 am


They mount on a box normally. That way all the live stuff is pretty
much contained.
You can get shallow boxes if it's a head banging issue.
Not hard to fix.
BETA-32 wrote:
> I just had a handyman-type person wire and install some very basic lights in
> the basement of my home. The lights fixtures are just the very basic round
> white plastic ones where a light bulb screws in. What he did was screw the
> white plastic fixtures directly onto the ceiling joists with no junction
> boxes or mounting boxes. The wires run along the joists and under the white
> plastic fixture to the contacts.
>
> I assume that's wrong and doesn't meet electrical codes. Am I right about
> that?
>
> And, yes, I know I should have a licensed electrician, etc., etc.


Posted by DAC on January 5, 2007, 9:26 am


YES!

Disconnect the circuit immediately and do it properly. You have
exposed hot terminals on the back side which bring along fire hazards
as their companion.

Don't let that man in the house again.



> I just had a handyman-type person wire and install some very basic lights in
> the basement of my home. The lights fixtures are just the very basic round
> white plastic ones where a light bulb screws in. What he did was screw the
> white plastic fixtures directly onto the ceiling joists with no junction
> boxes or mounting boxes. The wires run along the joists and under the white
> plastic fixture to the contacts.
>
> I assume that's wrong and doesn't meet electrical codes. Am I right about
> that?
>
> And, yes, I know I should have a licensed electrician, etc., etc.


Posted by deans@wdeans.com on January 5, 2007, 9:46 am



DAC wrote:
> YES!
>
> Disconnect the circuit immediately and do it properly. You have
> exposed hot terminals on the back side which bring along fire hazards
> as their companion.
>
> Don't let that man in the house again.
>
>
>
> > I just had a handyman-type person wire and install some very basic lights in
> > the basement of my home. The lights fixtures are just the very basic round
> > white plastic ones where a light bulb screws in. What he did was screw the
> > white plastic fixtures directly onto the ceiling joists with no junction
> > boxes or mounting boxes. The wires run along the joists and under the white
> > plastic fixture to the contacts.
> >
> > I assume that's wrong and doesn't meet electrical codes. Am I right about
> > that?
> >
> > And, yes, I know I should have a licensed electrician, etc., etc.

If you put it into a box yourself you also need to be sure he didn't
switch the black and white wires. The black wire should be on the
darker screw and the white wire on the lighter screw.


Posted by Jeff Wisnia on January 5, 2007, 4:48 pm


deans@wdeans.com wrote:
> DAC wrote:
>
>>YES!
>>
>>Disconnect the circuit immediately and do it properly. You have
>>exposed hot terminals on the back side which bring along fire hazards
>>as their companion.
>>
>>Don't let that man in the house again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I just had a handyman-type person wire and install some very basic lights in
>>>the basement of my home. The lights fixtures are just the very basic round
>>>white plastic ones where a light bulb screws in. What he did was screw the
>>>white plastic fixtures directly onto the ceiling joists with no junction
>>>boxes or mounting boxes. The wires run along the joists and under the white
>>>plastic fixture to the contacts.
>>>
>>>I assume that's wrong and doesn't meet electrical codes. Am I right about
>>>that?
>>>
>>>And, yes, I know I should have a licensed electrician, etc., etc.
>
>
> If you put it into a box yourself you also need to be sure he didn't
> switch the black and white wires. The black wire should be on the
> darker screw and the white wire on the lighter screw.
>


And check the OTHER ends of those wires too.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.


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