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Posted by Robert Green on November 3, 2009, 8:46 am
Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old drain pipes
in the street rather than digging them up and replacing them.
Can anyone tell me the pros and cons? I assume this is a "cheapskate"
method since the local water authority blew all its money on a brand new
steel & glass hi-rise that was determined to be "excessive" only *after* it
was built.
Anyway, I am worried that ramming a liner all the way up to my where my
home's drain line begins is likely to push a huge wad of sludge into my
drain pipe and leading to my toilets backing up. Of course, they don't
offer to do the last 20 yards into my home "while they are there" even if I
am willing to pay them the same price per foot that they are charging the
county. Any input welcome.
Thanks in advance,
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Bobby G.
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Posted by dpb on November 3, 2009, 9:48 am
Robert Green wrote:
> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old drain pipes
> in the street rather than digging them up and replacing them.
...
Since it's not your call, just relax and find something else to worry
over. And be glad your assessments aren't going up to also cover the
full replacement costs.
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Posted by Robert Green on November 4, 2009, 9:59 pm
> Robert Green wrote:
> > Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old drain
pipes
> > in the street rather than digging them up and replacing them.
> ...
> Since it's not your call, just relax and find something else to worry
> over. And be glad your assessments aren't going up to also cover the
> full replacement costs.
I've found that knowing as much as I can before I call any vendor or
government agency helps me not to waste his time with elementary stuff. I
might very well want to hire a plumbing crew to be ready to work with them
and do the replacement from my house to the street when they've backhoed it
out. I don't see anything wrong with doing research, even if it's "not my
call" because sometimes you can change that outcome before something bad
happens.
Someone has told me the pipes are not even metal, but terra cotta and they
are bound to fail after the county does its work. I don't know if that's
true or not. FWIW, my assessment skyrocketed in the last few years because
of the boom and it's not coming back down very fast so I am going to look
very hard at how they're spending my money.
We had a massive fraud about 10 years ago with some "connected" construction
firm ripping out and replacing about a million bucks of perfectly good curbs
before someone complained to the right people and got it stopped. Maryland
has a long and honored tradition of corruption. We gave the US Nixon's
favorite bagman, Spiro Agnew so the watchwords here are "Ever vigilant!
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Bobby G.
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Posted by aemeijers on November 8, 2009, 7:07 am
Robert Green wrote:
>> Robert Green wrote:
>>> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old drain
> pipes
>>> in the street rather than digging them up and replacing them.
>> ...
>> Since it's not your call, just relax and find something else to worry
>> over. And be glad your assessments aren't going up to also cover the
>> full replacement costs.
>
> I've found that knowing as much as I can before I call any vendor or
> government agency helps me not to waste his time with elementary stuff. I
> might very well want to hire a plumbing crew to be ready to work with them
> and do the replacement from my house to the street when they've backhoed it
> out. I don't see anything wrong with doing research, even if it's "not my
> call" because sometimes you can change that outcome before something bad
> happens.
>
> Someone has told me the pipes are not even metal, but terra cotta and they
> are bound to fail after the county does its work. I don't know if that's
> true or not.
What year was your place built? Local customs vary. My 1963 place down
in Louisiana had 'Orangeberg' (sp?), not even terra cotta, much less
iron. Nasty stuff, some sort of fiber/asphalt based product, in short
lengths so plenty of joints for tree roots to worm their way in. First
sign of trouble, I had it replaced all the way to the street with heavy
PVC. Some things you only want to mess with once. It usually mostly pays
back on resale- on any house over 'X' years old, a fresh sewer line is a
strong selling point to any buyer that ever had a collapsed sewer pipe
on their previous house.
--
aem sends...
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Posted by Don Phillipson on November 3, 2009, 11:27 am
> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old drain
pipes
> in the street rather than digging them up and replacing them.
> Can anyone tell me the pros and cons? . . .
> Anyway, I am worried that ramming a liner all the way up to my where my
> home's drain line begins is likely to push a huge wad of sludge into my
> drain pipe and leading to my toilets backing up.
It is very bad luck that RG lives in a county where the elected
officials will not answer questions from taxpayers, or at least
not from this taxpayer. Perhaps they know him of old.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
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