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Drain pipe lining Robert Green 11-03-2009
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Posted by Bob F on November 3, 2009, 11:54 am


Robert Green wrote:
> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old
> drain pipes in the street rather than digging them up and replacing
> them.
> Can anyone tell me the pros and cons? I assume this is a "cheapskate"
> method since the local water authority blew all its money on a brand
> new steel & glass hi-rise that was determined to be "excessive" only
> *after* it was built.
> Anyway, I am worried that ramming a liner all the way up to my where
> my home's drain line begins is likely to push a huge wad of sludge
> into my drain pipe and leading to my toilets backing up. Of course,
> they don't offer to do the last 20 yards into my home "while they are
> there" even if I am willing to pay them the same price per foot that
> they are charging the county. Any input welcome.
> Thanks in advance,

When they shut down the water for the work, turn off the water at the meter
(shut off the water heater. Don't use any water in the house to keep your pipes
full. After they have flushed the pipes after the work, open a hose nozzle
nearest the main pipe coming into the house and turn on the water at the meter
at the same time, to flush out your supply pipe without getting crud into your
pipes and water heater. Hopefully, most of the crud that gets into your house
will be flushed right back out.




Posted by Bob F on November 3, 2009, 5:10 pm


Bob F wrote:
> Robert Green wrote:
>> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old
>> drain pipes in the street rather than digging them up and replacing
>> them.
>> Can anyone tell me the pros and cons? I assume this is a
>> "cheapskate" method since the local water authority blew all its
>> money on a brand new steel & glass hi-rise that was determined to be
>> "excessive" only *after* it was built.
>> Anyway, I am worried that ramming a liner all the way up to my where
>> my home's drain line begins is likely to push a huge wad of sludge
>> into my drain pipe and leading to my toilets backing up. Of course,
>> they don't offer to do the last 20 yards into my home "while they are
>> there" even if I am willing to pay them the same price per foot that
>> they are charging the county. Any input welcome.
>> Thanks in advance,
> When they shut down the water for the work, turn off the water at the
> meter (shut off the water heater. Don't use any water in the house to
> keep your pipes full. After they have flushed the pipes after the
> work, open a hose nozzle nearest the main pipe coming into the house
> and turn on the water at the meter at the same time, to flush out
> your supply pipe without getting crud into your pipes and water
> heater. Hopefully, most of the crud that gets into your house will be
> flushed right back out.

Oops. Missed the "drain line" part. Ignore the above.



Posted by Mark on November 3, 2009, 11:16 pm



> Robert Green wrote:
>> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old
>> drain pipes in the street rather than digging them up and replacing
>> them.
>> Can anyone tell me the pros and cons? I assume this is a "cheapskate"
>> method since the local water authority blew all its money on a brand
>> new steel & glass hi-rise that was determined to be "excessive" only
>> *after* it was built.
>> Anyway, I am worried that ramming a liner all the way up to my where
>> my home's drain line begins is likely to push a huge wad of sludge
>> into my drain pipe and leading to my toilets backing up. Of course,
>> they don't offer to do the last 20 yards into my home "while they are
>> there" even if I am willing to pay them the same price per foot that
>> they are charging the county. Any input welcome.
>> Thanks in advance,
> When they shut down the water for the work, turn off the water at the
> meter (shut off the water heater. Don't use any water in the house to keep
> your pipes full. After they have flushed the pipes after the work, open a
> hose nozzle nearest the main pipe coming into the house and turn on the
> water at the meter at the same time, to flush out your supply pipe without
> getting crud into your pipes and water heater. Hopefully, most of the crud
> that gets into your house will be flushed right back out.
They are doing the sewer lines not the supply!


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on November 3, 2009, 3:44 pm


e:
> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old drain pi=
pes
> in the street rather than digging them up and replacing them.
> Can anyone tell me the pros and cons? =EF=BF=BDI assume this is a "cheaps=
kate"
> method since the local water authority blew all its money on a brand new
> steel & glass hi-rise that was determined to be "excessive" only *after* =
it
> was built.
> Anyway, I am worried that ramming a liner all the way up to my where my
> home's drain line begins is likely to push a huge wad of sludge into my
> drain pipe and leading to my toilets backing up. =EF=BF=BDOf course, they=
don't
> offer to do the last 20 yards into my home "while they are there" even if=
I
> am willing to pay them the same price per foot that they are charging the
> county. =EF=BF=BDAny input welcome.
> Thanks in advance,
> --
> Bobby G.

note OP said DRAIN LINE, I assume thjat means sewer line.

they will first clean the line by snaking then srubbing. interior must
be smooth so solids move along.

the sewer authority dug up and replaced the main line here. it was a
mess, they hit my gas line, i witnessed it:)

digging is highly disruptive and a real mess. the lining approach
works well and saves big bucks let alone the muddy mess it saves. and
the street sidewalk driveway restoration which never matches

Posted by HeyBub on November 3, 2009, 4:41 pm


Robert Green wrote:
> Just got a notice from the county that they will be "lining" old
> drain pipes in the street rather than digging them up and replacing
> them.
> Can anyone tell me the pros and cons? I assume this is a "cheapskate"
> method since the local water authority blew all its money on a brand
> new steel & glass hi-rise that was determined to be "excessive" only
> *after* it was built.
> Anyway, I am worried that ramming a liner all the way up to my where
> my home's drain line begins is likely to push a huge wad of sludge
> into my drain pipe and leading to my toilets backing up. Of course,
> they don't offer to do the last 20 yards into my home "while they are
> there" even if I am willing to pay them the same price per foot that
> they are charging the county. Any input welcome.
> Thanks in advance,

Dunno if it's the same technique, but about a year ago the city replaced the
main sewer line serving my house.

The line that got replaced was 8" concrete - the replacement line was 10"
plastic (of some kind). They start at one end of the block and pounded the
new line through the old one, fracturing the old concrete on the way. After
sufficient boom-pause-boom-pause-booms, they reach the end of the block.
Then they come in with a teeninsy back-hoe, about the size of a riding
lawnmover, dug down about eight feet, cut a hole in the new pipe and
connected my sanitary line.

They then filled the hole, put down new grass, repaired the fence and moved
on.

All in all, a very sanitary process (pardon the pun). I was impressed.



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