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Drywall & Receptacles Kitep 06-01-2007
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Posted by John Grabowski on June 2, 2007, 8:49 am
I forgot to mention box extenders: http://www.aifittings.com/m_9.htm



> Caddy makes something for this:
> http://www.erico.com/products/CADDYcfcDvcLvlrRetnr.asp
> You will probably have to go to an electrical supply company to get them.
> Make sure that you have the part number.
>
> You could also try using oversized metal wall plates to provide support.
>
> I have used 6/32 hex nuts behind the device strap to keep the device from
> being pushed back. I have also seen other electricians use a piece of
solid
> #14 or #12 copper wire coiled around the screw.
>
>
> > I bought a house, a real fixer-upper :) One problem is that a lot of
the
> > holes cut in the drywall to fit around the receptacles are too large, so
> > that the fins on the plug don't catch - it just keeps going till it's
> flush
> > with the box, which of course if flush with the stud. So, the plug sits
> > about 1/2 inch too deep.
> >
> > What are some methods for fixing this? The best way I could think of is
> to
> > buy some longer screws, and some small, thick washers. Any suggestions?
> >
> >
>


Posted by Nexus7 on June 3, 2007, 9:49 pm
> I have used 6/32 hex nuts behind the device strap to keep the device from
> being pushed back.

I think this is the best solution - there's just one nut, no worrying
about 3-4 washers; it attaches the outlet solidly to the box which is
itself attached to the stud, so everything is robust; and if the box
is metal, the outlet or switch body is solidly grounded.



Posted by aemeijers on June 3, 2007, 10:22 pm

>> I have used 6/32 hex nuts behind the device strap to keep the device from
>> being pushed back.
>
> I think this is the best solution - there's just one nut, no worrying
> about 3-4 washers; it attaches the outlet solidly to the box which is
> itself attached to the stud, so everything is robust; and if the box
> is metal, the outlet or switch body is solidly grounded.
>
Again, code sez that if the box edge isn't flush with wall surface, you need
something between the device and any combustible materials, in case of
sparking. I agree, a fire actually starting that way is a one-in-a-million
shot, but when it comes time to sell, if the inspector actually pulls that
particular outlet cover, you;ll have to redo it anyway. As cheap as
extension rings are, may as well do it that way in the first place.

aem sends...



Posted by Kitep on June 4, 2007, 9:47 pm

>
>>> I have used 6/32 hex nuts behind the device strap to keep the device
>>> from
>>> being pushed back.
>>
>> I think this is the best solution - there's just one nut, no worrying
>> about 3-4 washers; it attaches the outlet solidly to the box which is
>> itself attached to the stud, so everything is robust; and if the box
>> is metal, the outlet or switch body is solidly grounded.
>>
> Again, code sez that if the box edge isn't flush with wall surface, you
> need something between the device and any combustible materials, in case
> of sparking. I agree, a fire actually starting that way is a
> one-in-a-million shot, but when it comes time to sell, if the inspector
> actually pulls that particular outlet cover, you;ll have to redo it
> anyway. As cheap as extension rings are, may as well do it that way in the
> first place.
>
> aem sends...

Just so you know, I do plan to use the box extenders. I do like to follow
code just to avoid problems in the future.



Posted by DT on June 1, 2007, 5:57 pm
says...
>
>I bought a house, a real fixer-upper :) One problem is that a lot of the
>holes cut in the drywall to fit around the receptacles are too large, so
>that the fins on the plug don't catch - it just keeps going till it's flush
>with the box, which of course if flush with the stud. So, the plug sits
>about 1/2 inch too deep.
>
>What are some methods for fixing this? The best way I could think of is to
>buy some longer screws, and some small, thick washers. Any suggestions?


Well, the first problem is that the boxes are not installed correctly. They are
not supposed to be flush with the stud, they are supposed to stick out 1/2" and
be flush with the drywall. The mounting strap on the receptacles should rest on
the box and the drywall at the same time.


--
Dennis


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