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Drywall & Receptacles Kitep 06-01-2007
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on June 29, 2007, 2:45 pm
On 1 Jun, 17:57, dthompson4...@SPAMwowway.com (DT) wrote:
> says...
>
>
>
> >I bought a house, a real fixer-upper :) One problem is that a lot of the
> >holes cut in the drywall to fit around the receptacles are too large, so
> >that the fins on the plug don't catch - it just keeps going till it's flush
> >with the box, which of course if flush with the stud. So, the plug sits
> >about 1/2 inch too deep.
>
> >What are some methods for fixing this? The best way I could think of is to
> >buy some longer screws, and some small, thick washers. Any suggestions?
>
-- Well, the first problem is that the boxes are not installed
correctly. They are
-- not supposed to be flush with the stud, they are supposed to stick
out 1/2" and
-- be flush with the drywall. The mounting strap on the receptacles
should rest on
-- the box and the drywall at the same time.

Paraphrasing Sam Torrance, and said with my best Scottish accent,
"Useful post that, useful."


Posted by Nate Nagel on June 1, 2007, 7:04 pm
Kitep wrote:
> I bought a house, a real fixer-upper :) One problem is that a lot of the
> holes cut in the drywall to fit around the receptacles are too large, so
> that the fins on the plug don't catch - it just keeps going till it's flush
> with the box, which of course if flush with the stud. So, the plug sits
> about 1/2 inch too deep.
>
> What are some methods for fixing this? The best way I could think of is to
> buy some longer screws, and some small, thick washers. Any suggestions?
>
>

I swear I saw metal support plates for just this problem in the dale
electric catalog but I can't seem to come up with the right combination
of search terms to find you a link to their web site. I was going to
order a couple next time I had to order any electrical supplies and I
haven't had to order anything in a while.

nate

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Posted by Nate Nagel on June 1, 2007, 7:10 pm
Nate Nagel wrote:
> Kitep wrote:
>
>> I bought a house, a real fixer-upper :) One problem is that a lot of
>> the holes cut in the drywall to fit around the receptacles are too
>> large, so that the fins on the plug don't catch - it just keeps going
>> till it's flush with the box, which of course if flush with the stud.
>> So, the plug sits about 1/2 inch too deep.
>>
>> What are some methods for fixing this? The best way I could think of
>> is to buy some longer screws, and some small, thick washers. Any
>> suggestions?
>>
>>
>
> I swear I saw metal support plates for just this problem in the dale
> electric catalog but I can't seem to come up with the right combination
> of search terms to find you a link to their web site. I was going to
> order a couple next time I had to order any electrical supplies and I
> haven't had to order anything in a while.
>
> nate
>

found what I was thinking of

http://dale-electric.com/search.php?itemnumber=&manufacturer=&keywords=device+leveler+retai&category=&resultsPerPage=25

does this help?

nate

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Posted by aemeijers on June 1, 2007, 8:58 pm

> Nate Nagel wrote:
>> Kitep wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a house, a real fixer-upper :) One problem is that a lot of
>>> the holes cut in the drywall to fit around the receptacles are too
>>> large, so that the fins on the plug don't catch - it just keeps going
>>> till it's flush with the box, which of course if flush with the stud.
>>> So, the plug sits about 1/2 inch too deep.
>>>
>>> What are some methods for fixing this? The best way I could think of is
>>> to buy some longer screws, and some small, thick washers. Any
>>> suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I swear I saw metal support plates for just this problem in the dale
>> electric catalog but I can't seem to come up with the right combination
>> of search terms to find you a link to their web site. I was going to
>> order a couple next time I had to order any electrical supplies and I
>> haven't had to order anything in a while.
>>
>> nate
>>
>
> found what I was thinking of
>
>
http://dale-electric.com/search.php?itemnumber=&manufacturer=&keywords=device+leveler+retai&category=&resultsPerPage=25
>
Nope, that ain't it- those are clips to retain a floating box. What OP
wants, and I'm suprised nobody mentioned it, since they are discussed on
here regularly, are box extension rings. All the big-boxes carry them,
2-packs for about three bucks. Usually plastic these days. I had to install
several here, because previous owner was an idiot, and didn't reposition
boxes when he added T&G in living room and rocked garage, badly. Code does
NOT allow just using standoffs or washers- no flammable materials can face
the installed device.

aem sends.....



Posted by Nate Nagel on June 1, 2007, 9:13 pm
aemeijers wrote:
>
>>Nate Nagel wrote:
>>
>>>Kitep wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I bought a house, a real fixer-upper :) One problem is that a lot of
>>>>the holes cut in the drywall to fit around the receptacles are too
>>>>large, so that the fins on the plug don't catch - it just keeps going
>>>>till it's flush with the box, which of course if flush with the stud.
>>>>So, the plug sits about 1/2 inch too deep.
>>>>
>>>>What are some methods for fixing this? The best way I could think of is
>>>>to buy some longer screws, and some small, thick washers. Any
>>>>suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I swear I saw metal support plates for just this problem in the dale
>>>electric catalog but I can't seem to come up with the right combination
>>>of search terms to find you a link to their web site. I was going to
>>>order a couple next time I had to order any electrical supplies and I
>>>haven't had to order anything in a while.
>>>
>>>nate
>>>
>>
>>found what I was thinking of
>>
>>http://dale-electric.com/search.php?itemnumber=&manufacturer=&keywords=device+leveler+retai&category=&resultsPerPage=25
>>
>
> Nope, that ain't it- those are clips to retain a floating box. What OP
> wants, and I'm suprised nobody mentioned it, since they are discussed on
> here regularly, are box extension rings. All the big-boxes carry them,
> 2-packs for about three bucks. Usually plastic these days. I had to install
> several here, because previous owner was an idiot, and didn't reposition
> boxes when he added T&G in living room and rocked garage, badly. Code does
> NOT allow just using standoffs or washers- no flammable materials can face
> the installed device.
>
> aem sends.....
>
>

Nope, I know what you're thinking of...

http://minerallac.com/minerallac%20catalog.pdf

this actually is intended for just this application. I need some
because the plaster in my walls is busted away around some receptacles
just around the plaster ears for some reason. scroll down to pages 27
and 155 and you'll see what I mean.

Oddly enough, the Madison hangers are on the very previous pages of the
catalog :)

nate

dammit, ya made me look :)

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