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Posted by Smarty on October 2, 2007, 3:33 pm
I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when
it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several
thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill.
The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency
(natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to
pump water under most conditions.
The concern I have is if the pump fails.
I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises
in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount
it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge
pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is
some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would
be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever
water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be
working when I really need them.
The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools,
furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or
opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance.
Smarty
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Posted by ransley on October 2, 2007, 3:37 pm
> I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when
> it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several
> thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill.
> The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency
> (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able to
> pump water under most conditions.
>
> The concern I have is if the pump fails.
>
> I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level rises
> in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to mount
> it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge
> pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there is
> some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative would
> be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate whenever
> water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will be
> working when I really need them.
>
> The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools,
> furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or
> opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance.
>
> Smarty
If you have city water look at www.basepump.com
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Posted by Smarty on October 2, 2007, 3:54 pm
I am actually quite familiar with these units, since they are not only
manufactured a few miles away from me in Western New York but have received
a lot of local publicity after the "surprise" ice storm hit a year ago in
October which took out electricity for up to 3 weeks here.
I am not really looking to a water driven pump approach, but rather want to
have a second electric pump operate as my earlier post indicated. It is my
impression that the water-driven pumps handle quite a bit less volume per
hour, and also rely on good discharge clearance / drainage for both the
basement water as well as the additional water they use for pumping. My
water pressure is also on the low side, forcing me to use one of their
smaller capacity units.
I'm just trying to find the best way of attaching and mounting 2 electric
pumps from both a plumbing and electrical viewpoint.
Smarty
>> I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit
>> when
>> it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several
>> thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill.
>> The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency
>> (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able
>> to
>> pump water under most conditions.
>>
>> The concern I have is if the pump fails.
>>
>> I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level
>> rises
>> in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to
>> mount
>> it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge
>> pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there
>> is
>> some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative
>> would
>> be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate
>> whenever
>> water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will
>> be
>> working when I really need them.
>>
>> The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools,
>> furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or
>> opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance.
>>
>> Smarty
>
> If you have city water look at www.basepump.com
>
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Posted by Toller on October 3, 2007, 12:21 am
>> I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit
>> when
>> it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several
>> thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill.
>> The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency
>> (natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able
>> to
>> pump water under most conditions.
>>
>> The concern I have is if the pump fails.
>>
>> I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level
>> rises
>> in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to
>> mount
>> it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet / discharge
>> pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or if there
>> is
>> some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An alternative
>> would
>> be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let both operate
>> whenever
>> water level rises, and then assume that either or both of the pumps will
>> be
>> working when I really need them.
>>
>> The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools,
>> furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or
>> opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance.
>>
>> Smarty
>
> If you have city water look at www.basepump.com
>
Brilliant advice; they are sure to handle thousand of gallons per hour
without any trouble!
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Posted by RBM on October 2, 2007, 3:55 pm
If your pumps are essential, as having a backup generator would indicate,
you should invest in a pump alternator. These things usually can be wired
to separate circuits for each pump, and set to fire pump 1, then pump 2,
back and forth, and if the water level rises while either pump is in
operation, they kick in the second pump
>I have a considerable amount of water enter my basement sump pump pit when
>it rains heavily, and a husky submersible pump which can pump several
>thousand gallons of water per hour if needed when the pit begins to fill.
>The pump is powered by 110V current, backed up by an automatic emergency
>(natural gas powered) generator, so I feel quite confident I will be able
>to pump water under most conditions.
>
> The concern I have is if the pump fails.
>
> I want to install a second pump which will kick in if the water level
> rises in the pit high enough to trigger it. My current thought would be to
> mount it above the current pump, and perhaps share the same outlet /
> discharge pipe. I'm not sure this is a correct or optimal arrangement, or
> if there is some better way of hooking up a second / backup pump. An
> alternative would be to fit 2 pumps at the same height into the pit, let
> both operate whenever water level rises, and then assume that either or
> both of the pumps will be working when I really need them.
>
> The basement is finished with a lot of relatively expensive tools,
> furniture, etc. so I want this to be done right. I welcome any advice or
> opinions, and thank you in advance for your assistance.
>
> Smarty
>
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