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Easier Method of Scrubbing a Deck? silver___30 07-01-2008
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Posted by on July 1, 2008, 5:44 pm

>> When I purchased my dual opposing scrubber I had a difficult time
>> finding anything that wasn't a very costly commercial grade scrubber.
>> I finally found the wallet friendly Hoover that is not commercial
>> grade but cheap enough to justify its purchase.
>
>It looks like the brushes on the Hoover FloorMax Supreme are disc-
>like. Is this correct? This would cut across the decking grain. I'm
>looking for something with roller-like brushes used with the grain.
>Yeh, the cylindrical floor scrubbers I've looked at are definitely
>pricey.

Yes. The Hoovers bristles are mounted on a disc with a axis
that is vertical.

Posted by ransley on July 1, 2008, 6:31 pm
On Jul 1, 4:30=A0pm, silver__...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2:06=A0pm, t...@mucks.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT), silver__...@hotmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > >I have a fairly large 20 year old cedar deck which I have cleaned and
> > >resealed religiously every 2 years for the past 6 years that I have
> > >owned the house. =A0I use a wood cleaner/brightener and deck scrubber (=
a
> > >stiff bristle brush on a pole) to clean it... which easily takes 12 to
> > >15 hours over the course of 3 days (after work) to complete to my
> > >satisfaction before resealing it. =A0This becomes more and more of a
> > >task as I get older. =A0I don't mind the blisters on top of blisters
> > >(yeh, I do wear gloves), but the sore back and arms slay me. =A0I do no=
t
> > >believe in using a pressure washer. =A0There has got to be an easier
> > >method to scrubbing a deck. =A0Has anyone tried using an electric
> > >compact walk-behind cylindrical floor scrubber with the nylon counter-
> > >rotating brushes (not a rotating disc)? =A0They are advertised as being=

> > >able to scrub any surface, but usually list tile & grout, brick,
> > >cement, hardwood, rubber, carpet, etc. =A0I haven't seen these being
> > >associated with scrubbing decks, but I'm wondering why not?
>
> > I haven't used a dual opposing scrubber for decks but I purchased
> > a Hoover FloorMax Supreme for my vinyl flooring. It works great.
>
> > I would caution that the brushes are not very stiff or durable for
> > deck use. I would think that the gap between the planks on the
> > deck would accelerate the destruction of the nylon/plastic bristles.
>
> > That being said I believe that the use of this tool would be a
> > improvement over manual cleaning, until the brushes wears out.
>
> > When I purchased my dual opposing scrubber I had a difficult time
> > finding anything that wasn't a very costly commercial grade scrubber.
> > I finally found the wallet friendly Hoover that is not commercial
> > grade but cheap enough to justify its purchase.
>
> It looks like the brushes on the Hoover FloorMax Supreme are disc-
> like. =A0Is this correct? =A0This would cut across the decking grain. =A0I=
'm
> looking for something with roller-like brushes used with the grain.
> Yeh, the cylindrical floor scrubbers I've looked at are definitely
> pricey.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have the hoover with the two disks and I dought its what you want.
The key is a good cleaner, I use Oxcilic acid and I power wash, not
power blast, or ruin any grain, an electric 1300 lb power washer kept
far enough away to clean is what I even use on cedar shake homes.
Sherwin Williams carries an oxcilic acid cleaner pre mixed, its
standard to power wash and it works well evough to stain. If you have
alot of black , and shade its likely mold, then use bleach first.

Posted by on July 2, 2008, 11:36 am
> On Jul 1, 4:30=A0pm, silver__...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 1, 2:06=A0pm, t...@mucks.net wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:21:44 -0700 (PDT), silver__...@hotmail.com
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >I have a fairly large 20 year old cedar deck which I have cleaned and=

> > > >resealed religiously every 2 years for the past 6 years that I have
> > > >owned the house. =A0I use a wood cleaner/brightener and deck scrubber=
(a
> > > >stiff bristle brush on a pole) to clean it... which easily takes 12 t=
o
> > > >15 hours over the course of 3 days (after work) to complete to my
> > > >satisfaction before resealing it. =A0This becomes more and more of a
> > > >task as I get older. =A0I don't mind the blisters on top of blisters
> > > >(yeh, I do wear gloves), but the sore back and arms slay me. =A0I do =
not
> > > >believe in using a pressure washer. =A0There has got to be an easier
> > > >method to scrubbing a deck. =A0Has anyone tried using an electric
> > > >compact walk-behind cylindrical floor scrubber with the nylon counter=
-
> > > >rotating brushes (not a rotating disc)? =A0They are advertised as bei=
ng
> > > >able to scrub any surface, but usually list tile & grout, brick,
> > > >cement, hardwood, rubber, carpet, etc. =A0I haven't seen these being
> > > >associated with scrubbing decks, but I'm wondering why not?
>
> > > I haven't used a dual opposing scrubber for decks but I purchased
> > > a Hoover FloorMax Supreme for my vinyl flooring. It works great.
>
> > > I would caution that the brushes are not very stiff or durable for
> > > deck use. I would think that the gap between the planks on the
> > > deck would accelerate the destruction of the nylon/plastic bristles.
>
> > > That being said I believe that the use of this tool would be a
> > > improvement over manual cleaning, until the brushes wears out.
>
> > > When I purchased my dual opposing scrubber I had a difficult time
> > > finding anything that wasn't a very costly commercial grade scrubber.
> > > I finally found the wallet friendly Hoover that is not commercial
> > > grade but cheap enough to justify its purchase.
>
> > It looks like the brushes on the Hoover FloorMax Supreme are disc-
> > like. =A0Is this correct? =A0This would cut across the decking grain. =
=A0I'm
> > looking for something with roller-like brushes used with the grain.
> > Yeh, the cylindrical floor scrubbers I've looked at are definitely
> > pricey.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I have the hoover with the two disks and I dought its what you want.
> The key is a good cleaner, I use Oxcilic acid and I power wash, not
> power blast, or ruin any grain, an electric 1300 lb power washer kept
> far enough away to clean is what I even use on cedar shake homes.
> Sherwin Williams carries an oxcilic acid cleaner pre mixed, its
> standard to power wash and it works well evough to stain. If you have
> alot of black , and shade its likely mold, then use bleach first.- Hide qu=
oted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In my original post I referred to cylindrical floor scrubbers.
Cylindrical floor scrubbers have cylindrical (roller-like) brushes.
These would be more effective than the disc scrubbers on decking where
the board imperfections (grooves and grain) run lengthwise. I imagine
there would be less wear on the brushes as well.

I have a 2600 psi gas pressure washer which, like I said, I wasn't
impressed with the results (compared to a brush side-by-side). The
wood cleaner\brightener I use contains oxalic acid. Is this the same
as the oxcilic acid you referred to? It could be too that I am trying
to achieve the better results of a brush (in my experience) because I
use a clear finish\sealer, not a stain. The time and effort invested
in cleaning may be less if an opaque sealer is used because the deck
is ultimately covered completely.

Posted by Joe on July 3, 2008, 12:16 pm
On Jul 1, 3:21=A0pm, silver__...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a fairly large 20 year old cedar deck which I have cleaned and
> resealed religiously every 2 years for the past 6 years that I have
> owned the house. =A0I use a wood cleaner/brightener and deck scrubber (a
> stiff bristle brush on a pole) to clean it... which easily takes 12 to
> 15 hours over the course of 3 days (after work) to complete to my
> satisfaction before resealing it. =A0This becomes more and more of a
> task as I get older. =A0I don't mind the blisters on top of blisters
> (yeh, I do wear gloves), but the sore back and arms slay me. =A0I do not
> believe in using a pressure washer. =A0There has got to be an easier
> method to scrubbing a deck.

>snip<

The solution to your problem may be at a janitorial supply house. The
professionals could well have machines and products to make the work
much faster. For them, the labor intensive part translates into $$, a
big no-no. Hit your yellow pages, and good luck.

Joe

Posted by Joe on July 3, 2008, 12:16 pm
On Jul 1, 3:21=A0pm, silver__...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a fairly large 20 year old cedar deck which I have cleaned and
> resealed religiously every 2 years for the past 6 years that I have
> owned the house. =A0I use a wood cleaner/brightener and deck scrubber (a
> stiff bristle brush on a pole) to clean it... which easily takes 12 to
> 15 hours over the course of 3 days (after work) to complete to my
> satisfaction before resealing it. =A0This becomes more and more of a
> task as I get older. =A0I don't mind the blisters on top of blisters
> (yeh, I do wear gloves), but the sore back and arms slay me. =A0I do not
> believe in using a pressure washer. =A0There has got to be an easier
> method to scrubbing a deck. =A0Has anyone tried using an electric
> compact walk-behind cylindrical floor scrubber with the nylon counter-
> rotating brushes (not a rotating disc)? =A0They are advertised as being
> able to scrub any surface, but usually list tile & grout, brick,
> cement, hardwood, rubber, carpet, etc. =A0I haven't seen these being
> associated with scrubbing decks, but I'm wondering why not?

You may find the answer to your problem at a janitorial supply house.
The professionals are likely to have something to keep the task from
being labor intensive. Try your Yellow Pages and good luck,

Joe

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