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Electric Base Board Heat komobu 09-07-2007
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Posted by on September 7, 2007, 9:34 pm


> Why? It's a rental unit. You're not going to live there. Why do you care
what
> the heating system is?

> >I hate to think what the electric heat is going to cost
> >with base board.
>
> Why do you care what electric heat is going to cost, if the tenant pays
the
> bill?


Doug , think of it this way...

Cheaper heating for tenant.
Cheaper heat means they have more money after paying the heating bill.

More money in their pockets means they can afford to pay you more rent.
Making it more affordable for you to invest money into the rental property.
Investing money in your rental, raises its market value.
I'd rather make the money than let the power company make it.
It also lowers pollution.

Higher rent.
This also gets you a better renter.
Higher rent normally weeds out the renters that move from place to place
looking for cheap rent.
Which could lead to a renter who won't take care of your property.

Getting a better renter.
This means you'll likely rent your home and keep it rented.
This also means more money in your pocket, as the home isn't sitting empty,
waiting for a renter.




Posted by komobu on September 8, 2007, 8:50 pm
Thanks for taking the time to post. I feel like an idiot because
usually I give out enough info and on this post I didnt. The house is
1500 sq ft Split Level house in South East Virginia. Heating is
important in the evenings starting in Oct or Nov and needed through at
least March.

As I said, the house is a Split level. The garage and family room are
on the same level. You go up about four stairs and you are in the
Kitchen. The living Room / Dining room are on the same level as the
kitchen. There is about four or five more stairs, and that puts you in
the bedrooms that are directly over the garage / family room.

This layout presents some problems as if I put a furnace in the
garage, there is no way to run ducts because the garage / family room
are on a slab. I dont have the crawl space until I get in the
kitchen.

I do have natural gas available by the city so that would be easy to
get. I too would not rent a house with electric baseboard heat and
that is why I want to change it. Most of the houses in the area have
gas forced air furnaces and conventional central air conditioners. A
heat pump may be the way to go if I can get the package setup.

I was able to pick up the house for 30k below market value. I dont
mind spending some of that 30k to bring the house up. It is very
important to me that the house stays rented and that I have good
tenants. I have been pretty fortunate so far because I treat all the
houses as if I were living in them.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply and I will check into what a
package heat pump will cost.


Posted by Mikepier on September 7, 2007, 9:05 pm
> Hi;
>
> I am buying a house for rental property. It currently has a 2 year old
> 13 seer 3.5 ton Carrier Central AC System that is self contained and
> sits outside. There is a huge duct that comes out of the unit and
> enters the crawl space and cools the house.
>
> As for heat, the house was made in 65 and has electric base board heat
> and I would like to convert to gas forced air, or maybe even a boiler
> system for water that heats the floors. What are my options? If I was
> to install a natural gas heater, could I hook into the AC Duct under
> the house? I hate to think what the electric heat is going to cost
> with base board.
>
> Any suggestions would be welcome.

A gas furnace would work provided your duct registers are low since
heat rises. If it's high or in the ceiling, you might not get the kind
of heat you want so that's something to consider.


Posted by Big_Jake on September 7, 2007, 10:31 pm
> Hi;
>
> I am buying a house for rental property. It currently has a 2 year old
> 13 seer 3.5 ton Carrier Central AC System that is self contained and
> sits outside. There is a huge duct that comes out of the unit and
> enters the crawl space and cools the house.
>
> As for heat, the house was made in 65 and has electric base board heat
> and I would like to convert to gas forced air, or maybe even a boiler
> system for water that heats the floors. What are my options? If I was
> to install a natural gas heater, could I hook into the AC Duct under
> the house? I hate to think what the electric heat is going to cost
> with base board.
>
> Any suggestions would be welcome.

Of course, no one has asked you where the property is. If in FL, who
cares, since the baseboards will nearly never run. If in Michigan,
quite a different story.

I am in WI, where it would be a big deal, but no one here would have
put in a central cooling system and ductwork, we would just use window
units for the limited cooling season.

I have been a landlord for several years. I offer this:

If it is not unusual for other properties in your area to have
baseboard heat, don't spend extra money doing a central heating
system.

Check with your local utility and see what the electric bills were
last winter. If they seem really high, you might have to spend money
on a central heating system to be competitive with other rental units
in the area. A natural gas or propane unit tied into the existing
ductwork (or replacing the existing air handler) will be the least
expensive way to go, but it won't be "cheap", especially if you have
it installed by a competent, licensed contractor.

JK



Posted by Telstra on September 7, 2007, 11:11 pm
7 cents of Electric heating gives you 3600 kJ while
7 cents of Propane gives only 2058kJ of Heating

> Hi;
>
> I am buying a house for rental property. It currently has a 2 year old
> 13 seer 3.5 ton Carrier Central AC System that is self contained and
> sits outside. There is a huge duct that comes out of the unit and
> enters the crawl space and cools the house.
>
> As for heat, the house was made in 65 and has electric base board heat
> and I would like to convert to gas forced air, or maybe even a boiler
> system for water that heats the floors. What are my options? If I was
> to install a natural gas heater, could I hook into the AC Duct under
> the house? I hate to think what the electric heat is going to cost
> with base board.
>
> Any suggestions would be welcome.
>



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