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Electric Wall Switches Harry 07-27-2005
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Posted by Harry on July 27, 2005, 3:14 pm



Hello,
Can someone tell me where on the Internet ican get pictures of wall switches.
Iam trying to replace a switch in my bathroom that seems to control, at least
as far as i know, two things: the ceiling exhaust fan and the ceiling light.
The ceiling light was originally wired for a timer swithch for the heat
lamp that was in this now ceiling light. I had the timer switch and heat
bulb removed so that i could screw in a Titanium-Dioxide, coated bulb because
of the mold in the bathroom (Florida etc.), and this switch sits alone under
the double switch above it which control the medicine cabinet lights and
sockets on the left side of the double switch, and the ceiling fan on the
right side, or at least that is what i thought until i went to install the
new switch which seems broken. The switch iam trying to replace seems to
have two white wires and one black wire and probably no groundwire. After
installing the new switch, i found this switch, not only, in some strange
manner, controls the ceiling fan and at the same time the switch which controls
the ceiling, light socket where is now the Titanium Dioxide, light, bulb.
In other words the double switch has one side controlling the ceiling fan
and another light switch in no way visually connected, as they are about
1 and 1/2 inches apart and not in the same electrical box - the ceiling,
light switch is under the double switch.

When i installed the new switch, it worked the ceiling fan fine, however
the ceiling light wouldnot work on the new switch. The new switch is just
a plain (to the best of my knowledge)wall. switch.

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Posted by SQLit on July 27, 2005, 9:26 am



>
> Hello,
> Can someone tell me where on the Internet ican get pictures of wall
switches.
> Iam trying to replace a switch in my bathroom that seems to control, at
least
> as far as i know, two things: the ceiling exhaust fan and the ceiling
light.
> The ceiling light was originally wired for a timer swithch for the heat
> lamp that was in this now ceiling light. I had the timer switch and heat
> bulb removed so that i could screw in a Titanium-Dioxide, coated bulb
because
> of the mold in the bathroom (Florida etc.), and this switch sits alone
under
> the double switch above it which control the medicine cabinet lights and
> sockets on the left side of the double switch, and the ceiling fan on the
> right side, or at least that is what i thought until i went to install the
> new switch which seems broken. The switch iam trying to replace seems to
> have two white wires and one black wire and probably no groundwire. After
> installing the new switch, i found this switch, not only, in some strange
> manner, controls the ceiling fan and at the same time the switch which
controls
> the ceiling, light socket where is now the Titanium Dioxide, light, bulb.
> In other words the double switch has one side controlling the ceiling fan
> and another light switch in no way visually connected, as they are about
> 1 and 1/2 inches apart and not in the same electrical box - the ceiling,
> light switch is under the double switch.
>
> When i installed the new switch, it worked the ceiling fan fine, however
> the ceiling light wouldnot work on the new switch. The new switch is just
> a plain (to the best of my knowledge)wall. switch.

I guess google is broken?
maybe it is a double pole single throw switch.

Tying the "white wires" together and landing on the switch you purchased
may solve your problem. I am a tad confused with the description.




Posted by Harry on July 27, 2005, 4:54 pm



>
>>
>> Hello,
>> Can someone tell me where on the Internet ican get pictures of wall
>switches.
>> Iam trying to replace a switch in my bathroom that seems to control, at
>least
>> as far as i know, two things: the ceiling exhaust fan and the ceiling
>light.
>> The ceiling light was originally wired for a timer swithch for the heat
>> lamp that was in this now ceiling light. I had the timer switch and heat
>> bulb removed so that i could screw in a Titanium-Dioxide, coated bulb
>because
>> of the mold in the bathroom (Florida etc.), and this switch sits alone
>under
>> the double switch above it which control the medicine cabinet lights and
>> sockets on the left side of the double switch, and the ceiling fan on
the
>> right side, or at least that is what i thought until i went to install
the
>> new switch which seems broken. The switch iam trying to replace seems
to
>> have two white wires and one black wire and probably no groundwire. After
>> installing the new switch, i found this switch, not only, in some strange
>> manner, controls the ceiling fan and at the same time the switch which
>controls
>> the ceiling, light socket where is now the Titanium Dioxide, light, bulb.
>> In other words the double switch has one side controlling the ceiling
fan
>> and another light switch in no way visually connected, as they are about
>> 1 and 1/2 inches apart and not in the same electrical box - the ceiling,
>> light switch is under the double switch.
>>
>> When i installed the new switch, it worked the ceiling fan fine, however
>> the ceiling light wouldnot work on the new switch. The new switch is just
>> a plain (to the best of my knowledge)wall. switch.
>
>I guess google is broken?
>maybe it is a double pole single throw switch.
>
>Tying the "white wires" together and landing on the switch you purchased
>may solve your problem. I am a tad confused with the description.
>
>
Hello,
Iam the one on the coputer asking the questions and the other guy is the
one doing the "work", so that is why itis so confusing: neither i know what
iam talking about nor does the other guy know what he is doing, however THANK
YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! that was the answer. He couldnot get both wires
into that little clamp hole, so tied the other white wire to the screw that
tightens that clamp hole where the first, white wire is in. Again i say:
thank you. You saved the day . . . now for the toilet . . .

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Posted by Ulysses on July 27, 2005, 11:18 am



>
> >
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> Can someone tell me where on the Internet ican get pictures of wall
> >switches.
> >> Iam trying to replace a switch in my bathroom that seems to control, at
> >least
> >> as far as i know, two things: the ceiling exhaust fan and the ceiling
> >light.
> >> The ceiling light was originally wired for a timer swithch for the
heat
> >> lamp that was in this now ceiling light. I had the timer switch and
heat
> >> bulb removed so that i could screw in a Titanium-Dioxide, coated bulb
> >because
> >> of the mold in the bathroom (Florida etc.), and this switch sits alone
> >under
> >> the double switch above it which control the medicine cabinet lights
and
> >> sockets on the left side of the double switch, and the ceiling fan on
> the
> >> right side, or at least that is what i thought until i went to install
> the
> >> new switch which seems broken. The switch iam trying to replace seems
> to
> >> have two white wires and one black wire and probably no groundwire.
After
> >> installing the new switch, i found this switch, not only, in some
strange
> >> manner, controls the ceiling fan and at the same time the switch which
> >controls
> >> the ceiling, light socket where is now the Titanium Dioxide, light,
bulb.
> >> In other words the double switch has one side controlling the ceiling
> fan
> >> and another light switch in no way visually connected, as they are
about
> >> 1 and 1/2 inches apart and not in the same electrical box - the
ceiling,
> >> light switch is under the double switch.
> >>
> >> When i installed the new switch, it worked the ceiling fan fine,
however
> >> the ceiling light wouldnot work on the new switch. The new switch is
just
> >> a plain (to the best of my knowledge)wall. switch.
> >
> >I guess google is broken?
> >maybe it is a double pole single throw switch.
> >
> >Tying the "white wires" together and landing on the switch you purchased
> >may solve your problem. I am a tad confused with the description.
> >
> >
> Hello,
> Iam the one on the coputer asking the questions and the other guy is the
> one doing the "work", so that is why itis so confusing: neither i know
what
> iam talking about nor does the other guy know what he is doing, however
THANK
> YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! that was the answer. He couldnot get both wires
> into that little clamp hole, so tied the other white wire to the screw
that
> tightens that clamp hole where the first, white wire is in. Again i say:
> thank you. You saved the day . . . now for the toilet . . .
>
>

I just hope you are not rewiring the toilet too ;-)

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Posted by kevin on July 27, 2005, 12:24 pm


Harry -- you guys don't exactly inspire confidence, just based on the
way you are talking. But you also don't sound like guys that are going
to go hire an electrician either.
So please, take som extra precautions when doing this kind of work:
- Turn OFF the circuit breakers at the main panel. No one should ever
be touching any wires or anything when the power is on (even if you
turn off the light switches).
- Be careful that no one mistakenly turns on the circuit breaker when
anyone is near the opened wire boxes.
- Just to be sure everything is off, test the wires for power (try
combination of whites, blacks, bare grounds, the box itself, etc.),
using a handheld voltmeter. If you don't have one of those, carefully
make connections between wires using the metal of a screwdriver while
being very sure to hold only the plastic insulated handle. If you see
any tiny (or huge) sparks, stop.
- When making connections, make sure the wires are tightened down
firmly, but don't tighten so much that you crush the wire or begin to
strip the screws.

BTW -- you really are not supposed to put two wires on the screw
connections like that. They were not designed for it. BUT, maybe you
would be best off just leaving it, instead of risking making it worse.
The correct way would have been to get a short piece (about 5 inches)
of the correct size wire, called a pigtail, stripped about a half inch
on each end. The ends of the two wires, plus the pigtail, are carefully
twisted together, then a plastic "wire nut" screwed on to the bundle to
cover up the exposed wire. The other end of the pigtail now gets
connected to the screw on the switch.

In any case: make sure you don't have any loose connections, and make
sure that any exposed, stripped wire isn't going to touch anything
inside the box by mistake. Exposed ends, if any, should have a wire nut
on them. And for the screw connections, only strip enough of the wire
to make the connection, no more.



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