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Electric fixture not working Slain 04-26-2008
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Posted by Joseph Meehan on April 26, 2008, 2:02 pm
> I bought this sconce light, which I am attaching to an outlet
> controlled by a dimmer switch.

Could you clarify that? Is the current going to the outlet (plug in,
not a fixture for a bulb)? If so ... Bad! don't control any outlet with a
dimmer.


>
> The electrical outlet gets the 110V as expected before attaching the
> light.
> After attaching the light, I put my multimeter probes into the socket
> where the bulb should go and can see the 110 V. But when I put the
> bulb in, it does not light up

A _digital_ multimeter is very sensitive and can pick up 120V on a line
not directly connected to any power source if the wires from it come close
to an line that is powered.

>
> I thought that the socket inside might be pushed all the way back and
> hence bulb not making contact, but I don't think thats the case.
> Interestingly, when I put in a fluorescent bulb instead, it just has a
> small flicker going.

This would tend to indicate that my comment on meters may be correct and
you have a line that is NOT connected to a live circuit, but is picking up a
little current from a live line close to it.

BTW if you are planning on using a fluorescent lamp on a dimmer, make
sure it is suitable for use on a dimmer. If it does not specifically say it
is, then it is likely not and could be a hazard if used with one.

>
> Any ideas ?
>


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit




Posted by Slain on April 26, 2008, 2:08 pm
Yes the current is coming to the outlet. I understand that the
millimeter can be sensitive, but when I turn the dimmer off, I don't
receive any power at the electrical outlet.

I tried both a fluorescent and a normal bulb for testing. And yes both
of them work




wrote:
>
>
> > I bought this sconce light, which I am attaching to an outlet
> > controlled by a dimmer switch.
>
> Could you clarify that? Is the current going to the outlet (plug in,
> not a fixture for a bulb)? If so ... Bad! don't control any outlet with a
> dimmer.
>
>
>
> > The electrical outlet gets the 110V as expected before attaching the
> > light.
> > After attaching the light, I put my multimeter probes into the socket
> > where the bulb should go and can see the 110 V. But when I put the
> > bulb in, it does not light up
>
> A _digital_ multimeter is very sensitive and can pick up 120V on a line
> not directly connected to any power source if the wires from it come close
> to an line that is powered.
>
>
>
> > I thought that the socket inside might be pushed all the way back and
> > hence bulb not making contact, but I don't think thats the case.
> > Interestingly, when I put in a fluorescent bulb instead, it just has a
> > small flicker going.
>
> This would tend to indicate that my comment on meters may be correct and
> you have a line that is NOT connected to a live circuit, but is picking up a
> little current from a live line close to it.
>
> BTW if you are planning on using a fluorescent lamp on a dimmer, make
> sure it is suitable for use on a dimmer. If it does not specifically say it
> is, then it is likely not and could be a hazard if used with one.
>
>
>
> > Any ideas ?
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
> Dia 's Muire duit





Posted by terry on April 26, 2008, 2:43 pm
> Yes the current is coming to the outlet. I understand that the
> millimeter can be sensitive, but when I turn the dimmer off, I don't
> receive any power at the electrical outlet.
>
> I tried both a fluorescent and a normal bulb for testing. And yes both
> of them work
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>

>
> > > I bought this sconce light, which I am attaching to an outlet
> > > controlled by a dimmer switch.
>
> > =A0 =A0 Could you clarify that? =A0Is the current going to the outlet (p=
lug in,
> > not a fixture for a bulb)? =A0If so ... Bad! =A0don't control any outlet=
with a
> > dimmer.
>
> > > The electrical outlet gets the 110V as expected before attaching the
> > > light.
> > > After attaching the light, I put my multimeter probes into the socket
> > > where the bulb should go and can see the 110 V. But when I put the
> > > bulb in, it does not light up
>
> > =A0 =A0 A _digital_ multimeter is very sensitive and can pick up 120V on=
a line
> > not directly connected to any power source if the wires from it come clo=
se
> > to an line that is powered.
>
> > > I thought that the socket inside might be pushed all the way back and
> > > hence bulb not making contact, but I don't think that's the case.
> > > Interestingly, when I put in a fluorescent bulb instead, it just has a=

> > > small flicker going.
>
> > =A0 =A0 This would tend to indicate that my comment on meters may be cor=
rect and
> > you have a line that is NOT connected to a live circuit, but is picking =
up a
> > little current from a live line close to it.
>
> > =A0 =A0 BTW if you are planning on using a fluorescent lamp on a dimmer,=
make
> > sure it is suitable for use on a dimmer. =A0If it does not specifically =
say it
> > is, then it is likely not and could be a hazard if used with one.
>
> > > Any ideas ?
>
> > --
> > Joseph Meehan
>
> > =A0Dia 's Muire duit- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
=2E
Sounds like rather basic trouble shooting situation: One suggestion
is.
Hook it up without the dimmer, by bypassing the dimmer temporarily
(you may find there is a black IN and a black OUT; try joining them
together), and see if the bulb lights up. If not there is break or
disconnection in the black wiring or the white unswitched and undimmed
neutral wire is open somewhere or for some reason.
Do not trust an electronic meter to measure voltages; even cheap
meters can be so sensitive that they can pick up voltage induced into
dead broken or disconnected wires from adjacent working conductors.

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