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Electrical PVR 06-19-2006
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Posted by PVR on June 19, 2006, 5:28 pm
Swimbo wanted a new decor light switch. I switched off the circuit at the
breaker board. While changing the switch I touched the live to either the
neutral or ground with a pliers. There was a good flash with sparks. I did
not believe this. I put a meter across the live and ground (and neutral).
All volts were zero. I tested again by connecting the live to the neutral or
earth with the pliers. No effect this time.

So what gives? How can a residual voltage be contained in a circuit
disconnected at the breaker?

I completed replacing the switch, switched on the breaker and everything
works ok.

Peter.



Posted by RBM on June 19, 2006, 5:56 pm
There is no residual electricity, you probably switched off the wrong
breaker or there was a second live circuit in the box



> Swimbo wanted a new decor light switch. I switched off the circuit at the
> breaker board. While changing the switch I touched the live to either the
> neutral or ground with a pliers. There was a good flash with sparks. I did
> not believe this. I put a meter across the live and ground (and neutral).
> All volts were zero. I tested again by connecting the live to the neutral
> or earth with the pliers. No effect this time.
>
> So what gives? How can a residual voltage be contained in a circuit
> disconnected at the breaker?
>
> I completed replacing the switch, switched on the breaker and everything
> works ok.
>
> Peter.
>



Posted by PipeDown on June 19, 2006, 6:29 pm
Agreed,

When you went back to the breaker box, did you find an additional breaker in
the tripped position?

A neon light or meter between each combination of 2 wires is a good CYA
test.

GFCI usually trip with much less drama at least hot or neutral WRT ground.
Hot to neutral may could tripped the breaker and left a GFCI still set.



> There is no residual electricity, you probably switched off the wrong
> breaker or there was a second live circuit in the box
>
>
>
>> Swimbo wanted a new decor light switch. I switched off the circuit at the
>> breaker board. While changing the switch I touched the live to either the
>> neutral or ground with a pliers. There was a good flash with sparks. I
>> did not believe this. I put a meter across the live and ground (and
>> neutral). All volts were zero. I tested again by connecting the live to
>> the neutral or earth with the pliers. No effect this time.
>>
>> So what gives? How can a residual voltage be contained in a circuit
>> disconnected at the breaker?
>>
>> I completed replacing the switch, switched on the breaker and everything
>> works ok.
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>
>



Posted by CJT on June 19, 2006, 6:00 pm
PVR wrote:

> Swimbo wanted a new decor light switch. I switched off the circuit at the
> breaker board. While changing the switch I touched the live to either the
> neutral or ground with a pliers. There was a good flash with sparks. I did
> not believe this. I put a meter across the live and ground (and neutral).
> All volts were zero. I tested again by connecting the live to the neutral or
> earth with the pliers. No effect this time.
>
> So what gives? How can a residual voltage be contained in a circuit
> disconnected at the breaker?
>
> I completed replacing the switch, switched on the breaker and everything
> works ok.
>
> Peter.
>
>
Maybe somebody flipped the breaker back on. And are you sure you
flipped the right breaker?

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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on June 19, 2006, 6:16 pm
I always introduce a intential short to check for such mistakes as
triopped wrong breaker or the dreaded this box contains 2 seperate live
circuits fed by 2 breakers.

better its a screwdrver frying than me flying across the
room............


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