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Electrical PVR 06-19-2006
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Posted by Toller on June 19, 2006, 6:37 pm

>I always introduce a intential short to check for such mistakes as
> triopped wrong breaker or the dreaded this box contains 2 seperate live
> circuits fed by 2 breakers.
>
> better its a screwdrver frying than me flying across the
> room............
>
Better still to use a voltage detector. An intentional short?!



Posted by =?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= on June 19, 2006, 9:12 pm
hallerb@aol.com posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

> I always introduce a intential short to check for such mistakes as
> triopped wrong breaker or the dreaded this box contains 2 seperate live
> circuits fed by 2 breakers.
>
> better its a screwdrver frying than me flying across the
> room............
>
>
This just adds to the other fundy answers and comments elsewhere.
Avoid this guy.
--
Tekkie

Posted by hallerb@aol.com on June 19, 2006, 11:39 pm
Hey its not funny to get hit bad, where a quick no spark assures your
not about to work in a hot box.

I have also worked on high voltage devices, better safe than sorry.

So you think my redundancy stuff is funny?

Think about that the next time something essential breaks in your home.
My best friend has had 2 washers and 2 dryers for over 30 years that I
have known him.

This summer I am drilling a water well in my back yard, for irrigation
and back up of city water. my hydra drill knock off is in place.


Posted by Doug Miller on June 20, 2006, 8:29 am
>Hey its not funny to get hit bad, where a quick no spark assures your
>not about to work in a hot box.

Voltage testers work even better -- and it's cheaper in the long run to buy
one voltage tester than to keep replacing burned-up screwdrivers.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by PipeDown on June 20, 2006, 3:14 pm

>>Hey its not funny to get hit bad, where a quick no spark assures your
>>not about to work in a hot box.
>
> Voltage testers work even better -- and it's cheaper in the long run to
> buy
> one voltage tester than to keep replacing burned-up screwdrivers.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

I think the point was the screwdriver was the "last ditch" check for safety.
I do use a voltage tester but I still also short the conductors if I intend
to actually touch them (as you know touching is not always necessary when
replacing a fixture). I also do this with DC circuits particularly with
large caps.

I don't believe he was recommending it as a first line for tripping breakers



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