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Electrical Panel Upgrade questions marspinball 07-16-2006
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Posted by marspinball on July 16, 2006, 1:48 am
Hi

I've decided to install central HVAC and was told that I will need a new
panel since mine is a 60 amp. My home was built in 1951. I have upgraded to
all modern appliances and have added numerous lighting and ceiling fans
also. I also have a game room with about twelve coin operated commercial
arcade games. Currently there is only a gas wall heater.

Since I have to upgrade the panel what amperage should I need and what
should I expect to pay. Should there be a difference in price between a 100
and 200 amp service. Also should the upgrade entail upgrading two prong
outlets, the ones without the ground. Since I have had many electrical wire
upgrades in the past all new circuits have grounds but the
bedroom/livingroom still have two prong plugs.

Thanks.



Posted by RBM on July 16, 2006, 7:34 am
IMO it would make the most sense to increase to a 200 amp service, although
you probably can get away with less. The price difference isn't usually
substantial enough not to go for it. The price is going to vary depending
upon where you live, what type of service you get, and you can have whatever
you want included in the job. Call a couple of local contractors and talk to
them



> Hi
>
> I've decided to install central HVAC and was told that I will need a new
> panel since mine is a 60 amp. My home was built in 1951. I have upgraded
> to all modern appliances and have added numerous lighting and ceiling fans
> also. I also have a game room with about twelve coin operated commercial
> arcade games. Currently there is only a gas wall heater.
>
> Since I have to upgrade the panel what amperage should I need and what
> should I expect to pay. Should there be a difference in price between a
> 100 and 200 amp service. Also should the upgrade entail upgrading two
> prong outlets, the ones without the ground. Since I have had many
> electrical wire upgrades in the past all new circuits have grounds but the
> bedroom/livingroom still have two prong plugs.
>
> Thanks.
>



Posted by Eigenvector on July 16, 2006, 11:01 am

> Hi
>
> I've decided to install central HVAC and was told that I will need a new
> panel since mine is a 60 amp. My home was built in 1951. I have upgraded
> to all modern appliances and have added numerous lighting and ceiling fans
> also. I also have a game room with about twelve coin operated commercial
> arcade games. Currently there is only a gas wall heater.
>
> Since I have to upgrade the panel what amperage should I need and what
> should I expect to pay. Should there be a difference in price between a
> 100 and 200 amp service. Also should the upgrade entail upgrading two
> prong outlets, the ones without the ground. Since I have had many
> electrical wire upgrades in the past all new circuits have grounds but the
> bedroom/livingroom still have two prong plugs.
>
> Thanks.
I contacted PSE for how much it would cost to upgrade my 100 A service to
200 A and it was grand total of $375 for doing the upgrade, they need to
take your service offline for a relatively large amount of time, one to
disconnect the current connection and then it will be off until the upgrade
to the service and the PERMITS and INSPECTION to the new meter, panel, and
anything else applicable are finished. Basically they told me it would be
off for about 6 hours.

Of course $375 doesn't cover the cost for having the electrician do his/her
work.



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on July 16, 2006, 1:22 pm

here the electrician pulls all the old stuff, installs everything new
including connecting to service line, middle group inspects service and
so does power company who upgrades drop if needed.

power company stuff was free


Posted by Mike O'Donnell on July 18, 2006, 2:01 am

>
>> Hi
>>
>> I've decided to install central HVAC and was told that I will need a new
>> panel since mine is a 60 amp. My home was built in 1951. I have upgraded
>> to all modern appliances and have added numerous lighting and ceiling
>> fans also. I also have a game room with about twelve coin operated
>> commercial arcade games. Currently there is only a gas wall heater.
>>
>> Since I have to upgrade the panel what amperage should I need and what
>> should I expect to pay. Should there be a difference in price between a
>> 100 and 200 amp service. Also should the upgrade entail upgrading two
>> prong outlets, the ones without the ground. Since I have had many
>> electrical wire upgrades in the past all new circuits have grounds but
>> the bedroom/livingroom still have two prong plugs.
>>
>> Thanks.
> I contacted PSE for how much it would cost to upgrade my 100 A service to
> 200 A and it was grand total of $375 for doing the upgrade, they need to
> take your service offline for a relatively large amount of time, one to
> disconnect the current connection and then it will be off until the
> upgrade to the service and the PERMITS and INSPECTION to the new meter,
> panel, and anything else applicable are finished. Basically they told me
> it would be off for about 6 hours.
>
> Of course $375 doesn't cover the cost for having the electrician do
> his/her work.
I did mine a few years ago. The local building codes (central Ohio) allow
the homeowner to do electrical work on his own home without a license, as
long as it passes inspection. I upgraded from a 1968 Federal Pacific 100
amp/8 circuit to a 200A/40 circuit Square D Q0 series. Parts were around
$450. The only thing I needed to pay to the electric company (actually
municipal power) was $30 for the permit. They came out on the scheduled
day, cut off the power where it reached the house & pulled the meter, then
after I was done the inspector checked the work and he called the crew to
re-attach the power. The city even provided a new 200A meter base as part
of the permit. Took most of the day. I arranged things with my neighbor
so I could run a couple of long extension cords from their house for my
fridge and sump pump while I was doing the work.

Prior to doing the work, I did a lot of research, and placed several calls
to the inspector with questions. He was very friendly about it, and pointed
out several areas where they require above the national code (they require
heavier service feed lines, etc.)

A neighbor (not very adept at home repairs) has his replaced by an
electrician, essentially the same type of upgrade, it was about $1000. Of
course the pro was able do it in about 1/4 the time.

Mike O.



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