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Electrical Questions GeorgeSchaaf 03-04-2007
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Posted by on March 4, 2007, 11:39 pm


I have several electrical questions:

1. Is it allowable to connect 12 gauge wire to a 15amp breaker in the
service panel ?

2. How many half height single pole breakers are allowed in the main
panel rated for 200amp ?

3. I noticed something very interesting in a 3-way switch arrangement
in my home. To power a receptacle, they grabbed an unswitched feed
from the light fixture by connecting a black wire to both travelers in
the box. Since there is always power on exactly one of them, this
seems to work. Is this allowable ?

4. Is it ok to wire more than 4 receptacles downstream from a GFCI
outlet ?

Thanks...


Posted by Roger Shoaf on March 4, 2007, 11:53 pm



> I have several electrical questions:
>
> 1. Is it allowable to connect 12 gauge wire to a 15amp breaker in the
> service panel ?

Yes.

>
> 2. How many half height single pole breakers are allowed in the main
> panel rated for 200amp ?

As many as will fit.

Not sure on 3 &4.

By the way I noticed your name, we are probably distant cousins.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.



Posted by Toller on March 5, 2007, 12:32 am



>I have several electrical questions:
>
> 1. Is it allowable to connect 12 gauge wire to a 15amp breaker in the
> service panel ?
>
Sure, but you only run 15a through it. Sometimes you are required to use
#12 to avoid voltage drop.

> 2. How many half height single pole breakers are allowed in the main
> panel rated for 200amp ?
>
As many as you want. However, it will obviously still be good for just
200a.

> 3. I noticed something very interesting in a 3-way switch arrangement
> in my home. To power a receptacle, they grabbed an unswitched feed
> from the light fixture by connecting a black wire to both travelers in
> the box. Since there is always power on exactly one of them, this
> seems to work. Is this allowable ?
>
As long as the neutral runs with it, I don't see why not. Someone could
object that it violates a basic requirement that devices only be used for
the purpose they were intended, but I can't see why this would be unsafe;
assuming it is done reasonably.

> 4. Is it ok to wire more than 4 receptacles downstream from a GFCI
> outlet ?
>
Obviously you have to beware that you don't overload the circuit, but aside
from that it is fine.
Just beware that long circuit may be subject to problems and those problems
can be hard to find.
My house had one GFCI breaker, and they put 4 bathrooms and 3 outdoor
outlets on it. When one outdoor outlet went bad and created a ground fault
it was a real trip to find the problem; especially since I didn't even know
it was on the breaker.



Posted by on March 5, 2007, 7:13 am


> 3. I noticed something very interesting in a 3-way switch arrangement
> in my home. To power a receptacle, they grabbed an unswitched feed
> from the light fixture by connecting a black wire to both travelers in
> the box. Since there is always power on exactly one of them, this
> seems to work. Is this allowable ?
>


Yes, it's called a loop switch.

It's fairly a common way to power a switch.

It also comes in handy when you want to switch half of an outlet.




Posted by Tom Horne, Electrician on March 5, 2007, 11:47 pm


greg6755@gmail.com wrote:
>> 3. I noticed something very interesting in a 3-way switch arrangement
>> in my home. To power a receptacle, they grabbed an unswitched feed
>> from the light fixture by connecting a black wire to both travelers in
>> the box. Since there is always power on exactly one of them, this
>> seems to work. Is this allowable ?
>>
>
>
> Yes, it's called a loop switch.
>
> It's fairly a common way to power a switch.
>
> It also comes in handy when you want to switch half of an outlet.

Something is missing from your description here if you connect both
travelers to a load you would have connected them to each other and the
light would be on all of the time.
--
Tom Horne

"This alternating current stuff is just a fad. It is much too dangerous
for general use." Thomas Alva Edison

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